[news.sysadmin] Checkgroup Ctl message from altel!root

kdavis@lamc.UUCP (Ken Davis) (03/25/88)

I just got two checkgroup control messages from
alberta!altel!root.  The second one specified to remove
all active groups.

I can't find site altel in the maps.  Anybody know whats going
on?

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wisner@eddie.MIT.EDU (Bill Wisner) (03/26/88)

altel!root posted his checkgroups messages very sloppily. He attempted
to limit distribution, but bungled it.

Now, listen up, kids:

THERE MUST BE A SPACE BETWEEN THE HEADER FIELD AND THE TEXT OF THE HEADER!

For example, our friend at altel should have said:
Distribution: altel

Instead, he did this:
Distribution:altel

There is a REASON that every news-related program in existence puts a
space after every header field. It is because the news software REQUIRES that
space before it will be recognized as a proper header.

Lecture done. Take this soapbox outta here, Guido.

Everyone else should just ignore the output generated by those checkgroups
messages.

..b

page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) (03/26/88)

wisner@eddie.MIT.EDU (Bill Wisner) wrote:
>THERE MUST BE A SPACE BETWEEN THE HEADER FIELD AND THE TEXT OF THE HEADER!

I hope we can relax this in news 3.0 and/or Cnews.  For compatibility
inews would have to massage the headers to add the spaces, but clearly
making humans slaves to the software's inadequacies isn't the way to go.

Time to mung the news source to ignore checkgroups messages...

..Bob
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lyndon@ncc.UUCP (Lyndon Nerenberg) (03/26/88)

If you check the headers on the control message you will see:

Distribution:local

They've been notified of the problem. Just another new site coming on
stream :-)
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lyndon  {alberta,uunet}!ncc!lyndon  lyndon%ncc@uunet.uu.net

amos@taux01.UUCP (Amos Shapir) (03/26/88)

I also  got these; they  had a 'Distribution:  altel' in the  header, so
were meant for local distribution only.  One problem is how they got out
of altel - root@altel should check his sys file(s). But a bigger problem
is  that once  they  did, they  went everywhere;  looks  like news  2.11
interpret an unknown  distribution as 'none', and  since no distribution
means 'world', that's where they went!

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