[news.sysadmin] Comp.women vs. Comp.society.women

skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (07/05/88)

From my mail, I understand that some sites were getting comp.society.women
until comp.women was created.  It seems that comp.society.women disappeared
at some sites at the same time.  I'm not sure why this would have happened
unless it was simply confusion over the two groups.

Comp.society.women is a legitimate, moderated group.  Comp.women was a
bogus group.  

If people decided they didn't want either group, that's fine.  I would
hope that it wasn't simply confusion, and I would hope that it was not
a skirmish in the threatened rmgroup war.

If people have comments about the group, or if people would like to submit
something, or if people are not getting the group and would like it mailed
to them, please contact me at:

comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu

or

skyler@violet.berkeley.edu

-Trish Roberts

webber@aramis.rutgers.edu (Bob Webber) (07/08/88)

In article <238@pigs.UUCP>, haugj@pigs.UUCP (Joe Bob Willie) writes:
< In article <11663@agate.BERKELEY.EDU<, skyler@violet.berkeley.edu writes:
< |...
< | If people have comments about the group, or if people would like to submit
< | something, or if people are not getting the group and would like it mailed
< | to them, please contact me at:
< | comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu
< 
< This was originally posted in news.sysadmin, but it may bear saying
< here.
< 
< DON'T MAIL NEWSGROUPS.  If you aren't getting the group, then you need
< to get a newsfeed.  We can't start having newsgroups mailed all over
< the network.  

This overlooks two things:

   1)  A great many newsgroups are regularly mailed all over the net.
       a) All postings to moderators are mailed in.
       b) Many newsgroups are converted mailing lists.

   2)  A user can request and recieve a mailed news group whereas it
       takes a news administrator to set up the connections for a news
       feed.  Similarly, any user can forward a group via mail (all that
       is necessary is that the group appears on their machine, it is
       not necessary for them to be moderator), whereas only a news 
       administrator at another site can give a link.

The usage of news groups to cut down on bulk mail only makes sense if
all the groups get carried.  Whenever someone stops carrying a group,
they are simply setting up a situation where eventually someone will
figure out how to get around it via mail.  

< Also, is anyone archiving the group?

Actually, the last mention I saw of that was a note from skyler saying that
she specifically wasn't.  So far there has only been one message worth
archiving (a reference on a book), but you never know -- something interesting
might yet appear there.

------ BOB (webber@athos.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!athos.rutgers.edu!webber)