kls@ditka.UUCP (Karl Swartz) (09/01/89)
Over the past month or so a handful of messages have ended up in the uucp mailbox here on ditka, for reasons which have been quite elusive to me. Attached are the latest two examples. All seem to have bounced several times before finally finding a home here, such that it is. All seem to have bounced off of rt1 early along the way, for reasons which also elude me. All have involved sundc.East.Sun.COM early in the process, and most have also involved csed-60 or another csed-# machine. In the following examples, the first or second bounce was at rt1, with a failed uux. This is rather puzzling since rt1 (an IBM RT running AIX 2.2.1) has a sendmail.cf configured to know who it can uux to, and knows to pass anything else to ditka for routing. When I tried the failed addresses in sendmail's test mode it knew to pass them on to ditka and not to try uux as it did for the messages in question. Regardless of this, I see no reason why either of the messages should have passed thru ditka or rt1 at all, in particular the second message which appears to have been failed mail to a local user. Maybe a mailing list gone wild? I have no idea. If anybody can shed any light on this I'd really appreciate it. *********************** *** failed mail #1 *** *********************** From uucp Thu Aug 31 22:39 MDT 1989 >From lll-winken!riacs!rutgers!sfgl.sfgl.fr!Mailer-Daemon Thu Aug 31 22:39:08 1989 remote from pacbell Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA24593; 31 Aug 89 22:39:08 MDT (Thu) Received: by lll-winken.llnl.gov (smail2.5) id AA12305; 31 Aug 89 14:03:02 PDT (Thu) Received: from rutgers.UUCP by icarus.riacs.edu (5.59/2.1G) id AA08269; Tue, 29 Aug 89 19:21:00 PDT Received: from ogccse.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.2/3.04) with UUCP id AA27445; Sun, 27 Aug 89 01:25:35 EDT Received: by cse.ogc.edu (5.61+OGC_1.5 (named)/OGC_6.1) id AA07948 ; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:41:39 -0700 Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA27446; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:24:26 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06960; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:17 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24709; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:32 PDT Received: by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB23389; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST Date: Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST From: riacs!rutgers!sfgl.sfgl.fr!Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-Id: <8908270048.AB23389@East.Sun.COM> To: <riacs!lll-winken!pacbell!ditka!uucp> Status: RO ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to snail-swanbb: >>> RCPT To:<ditka@QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb> <<< 554 <ditka@QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb>... Unknown domain : QueensU . CA : dalamb 554 <ditka@QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb>... Service unavailable ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23387; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04617; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:52:51 EDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail-swanbb.West.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23384; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:12 EST Received: from sun.Sun.COM (sun-bb) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24699; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:12 PDT Received: from verdix.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06933; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:51:52 PDT Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA12093; Fri, 25 Aug 89 06:47:40 PDT Return-Path: <dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!pacbell!ditka!rt1!ditka!uucp@verdix.com> Received: by vrdxhq.verdix.com (4.12/01-Aug-89) id AA14926; Fri, 25 Aug 89 09:46:20 edt Received: from uunet.UUCP by dgis.daitc.mil (5.61++/21-Aug-89) with UUCP id AA08752; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:29:23 -0400 Received: from cs.utexas.edu by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA21808; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:24:59 -0400 Posted-Date: 24 Aug 89 02:02:07 MDT (Thu) Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cs.utexas.edu (5.59/1.39) id AA23579; Thu, 24 Aug 89 11:12:27 CDT Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:35:25 -0700 Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20176; 24 Aug 89 02:05:12 MDT (Thu) Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00163; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:57:32 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20116; 24 Aug 89 02:02:30 MDT (Thu) Date: 24 Aug 89 02:02:07 MDT (Thu) From: dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!rt1!ditka.UUCP!MAILER-DAEMON@verdix.com Subject: failed mail To: ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka@cs.utexas.edu Message-Id: <8908240202.AA20116@ditka.UUCP> ======= command failed ======= COMMAND: /usr/bin/uux -art1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka -r - oids-8!rmail '(wheeler)' ======= standard error follows ======= bad system name: oids-8 uux failed ( 11 ) ======= text of message follows ======= >From rt1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00093; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:49:43 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19869; 24 Aug 89 01:50:41 MDT (Thu) Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00268; Tue, 22 Aug 89 22:43:34 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14114; Mon, 21 Aug 89 15:34:53 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04792; Mon, 21 Aug 89 18:32:56 EST Received: from csed-1.UUCP by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13931; Mon, 21 Aug 89 18:37:23 EDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11659; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:27:34 EDT Received: from Central.Sun.COM (texsun-bb.Central.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01507; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:23:00 EST Received: from swrinde.UUCP by Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05987; Mon, 21 Aug 89 16:26:21 CDT Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA by swrinde.nde.swri.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA03295; Mon, 21 Aug 89 16:17:23 -0500 Received: from qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with TCP; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:17:45 EDT Received: by qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA12846; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:20:13 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:20:13 EDT From: rt1!sundc!Central!swrinde!qucis.queensu.ca!dalamb@sundc.East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <8908212120.AA12846@qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca> To: sun!sundc.East.Sun.COM!Central!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-1!oids-8!wheeler Subject: (deleted) *********************** *** failed mail #2 *** *********************** From uucp Thu Aug 31 22:39 MDT 1989 >From lll-winken!riacs!rutgers!sundc.east.sun.com!Mailer-Daemon Thu Aug 31 22:39:13 1989 remote from pacbell Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA24597; 31 Aug 89 22:39:13 MDT (Thu) Received: by lll-winken.llnl.gov (smail2.5) id AA12319; 31 Aug 89 14:03:19 PDT (Thu) Received: from rutgers.UUCP by icarus.riacs.edu (5.59/2.1G) id AA08278; Tue, 29 Aug 89 19:21:05 PDT Received: from ogccse.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.2/3.04) with UUCP id AA27450; Sun, 27 Aug 89 01:25:34 EDT Received: by cse.ogc.edu (5.61+OGC_1.5 (named)/OGC_6.1) id AA07955 ; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:41:40 -0700 Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA27456; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:24:45 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06981; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:31 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24716; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:45 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23399; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:36 EST Received: by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB04629; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT Date: Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT From: riacs!rutgers!sundc.east.sun.com!Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <8908262353.AB04629@sundc.East.Sun.COM> To: <riacs!lll-winken!pacbell!ditka!uucp> Status: RO ----- Transcript of session follows ----- bad system name: csed-60 uux failed. code 68 550 <csed-60!Mailer-Daemon@sundc>... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04627; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail-swanbb.West.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23390; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:24 EST Received: from sun.Sun.COM (sun-bb) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24705; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:25 PDT Received: from verdix.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06948; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:06 PDT Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA12957; Fri, 25 Aug 89 08:44:53 PDT Return-Path: <dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!pacbell!ditka!rt1!ditka!uucp@verdix.com> Received: by vrdxhq.verdix.com (4.12/01-Aug-89) id AA17199; Fri, 25 Aug 89 11:43:31 edt Received: from uunet.UUCP by dgis.daitc.mil (5.61++/21-Aug-89) with UUCP id AA08751; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:29:14 -0400 Received: from cs.utexas.edu by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA21794; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:24:53 -0400 Posted-Date: 24 Aug 89 01:57:18 MDT (Thu) Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cs.utexas.edu (5.59/1.39) id AA23436; Thu, 24 Aug 89 11:12:17 CDT Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:34:24 -0700 Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20141; 24 Aug 89 02:03:40 MDT (Thu) Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00116; Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:52:47 EDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19972; 24 Aug 89 01:57:35 MDT (Thu) Date: 24 Aug 89 01:57:18 MDT (Thu) From: dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!rt1!ditka.UUCP!MAILER-DAEMON@verdix.com Subject: failed mail To: ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-Id: <8908240157.AA19972@ditka.UUCP> ======= command failed ======= COMMAND: /usr/bin/uux -art1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon -r - csed-1stoltz!rmail '(mohar)' ======= standard error follows ======= bad system name: csed-1stoltz uux failed ( 11 ) ======= text of message follows ======= >From rt1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00055; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:44:08 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19798; 24 Aug 89 01:48:37 MDT (Thu) Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA28029; Mon, 21 Aug 89 14:39:34 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11542; Mon, 21 Aug 89 14:36:10 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02055; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:33:20 EST Received: from csed-1.UUCP by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12004; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:37:47 EDT Received: from csed-60. by csed-1 (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA28063; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:15:03 EDT Received: by csed-60. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00183; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT From: rt1!csed-1!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon@sundc.East.Sun.COM (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <8908212113.AA00183@csed-60.> To: sun!sundc.Sun.COM!Postmaster ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 akin-60... User unknown 421 csed-33: Host csed-33 is down, will keep trying for 3 days ----- Message header follows ----- Return-Path: <akin> Received: by csed-60. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00181; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT From: akin (Bill Akin) Message-Id: <8908212113.AA00181@csed-60.> To: akin Subject: Testing Cc: akin-60 -- Karl Swartz |UUCP uunet!lll-winken!ames!hc!rt1!ditka!kls 1-505/667-7777 (work) |Internet kls@rt1.lanl.gov 1-505/672-3113 (home) |BIX kswartz "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education." (Twain)
kls@ditka.UUCP (Karl Swartz) (09/03/89)
In article <3897@ditka.UUCP> I write: >Over the past month or so a handful of messages have ended up >in the uucp mailbox here on ditka ... >All seem to have bounced several times before finally finding >a home here, such that it is. All seem to have bounced off of >rt1 early along the way, for reasons which also elude me. All >have involved sundc.East.Sun.COM early in the process ... I spent several hours yesterday and today going over all the logs I could find. The first such message came thru ditka at 10:22 pm on August 8th: From: pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc! Sun.COM!claris!ames!postmaster (wrapped for clarity) To: rt1!hc!cs!rock The rt1!hc link disappeared about that time; rt1 *should* have stripped the hc, found the cs (which it doesn't know), and sent it to ditka for routing. (I know, re-routing is bad, but quite a lot of traffic went via rt1!hc and the link was rather abruptly dropped, certainly before the maps were updated.) Instead, a few minutes later I see the following going thru ditka: From: rt1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM! sundc!Sun.COM!claris!ames!postditka (wrapped for clarity) To: rt1!hc!cs!rock Note that the "From:" username has been changed. Apparently one of the many bugs that IBM introduced in sendmail for AIX 2.2.1 is a buffer size of only 70 characters for the "From:" address at some point ("ditka!pacbell ... ames!post" is exactly 70 characters long; other trashed messages confirm this). I've been sorely tempted to trash the IBM sendmail in favor of an unmolested 5.61 version; maybe this is the excuse I've been waiting for. Of course there are probably many other hacks that will keep 5.61 from working on AIX without a great deal of painful work. >I see no reason why either of the messages >should have passed thru ditka or rt1 at all This part part still remains a mystery. I can't find any other hc's in the maps, and none of the sites involved would have been routed via the real hc. If it helps, here is a 'uniq -c' on all the rmails directed thru rt1 and hc that seemed to lead to trouble: 1 rmail rt1!hc!4!30 1 rmail rt1!hc!ajpo!greeneh 6 rmail rt1!hc!ajpo.sei.cmu!ploedereder 4 rmail rt1!hc!cs!rock 17 rmail rt1!hc!csed-1stoltz!mohar 1 rmail rt1!hc!csed-37!mohar 1 rmail rt1!hc!fatvax!ebailey 4 rmail rt1!hc!ida!rwex 5 rmail rt1!hc!ncs.dnd.ca!smichell 1 rmail rt1!hc!oids-8!wheeler 1 rmail rt1!hc!philabs.philips.labs!caj 1 rmail rt1!hc!philabs.philips.labs!dpb 1 rmail rt1!hc!philabs.philips.labs!ewk 1 rmail rt1!hc!philabs.philips.labs!mat 1 rmail rt1!hc!philabs.philips.labs!mmr 2 rmail rt1!hc!umass!gsg 1 rmail rt1!hc!ut.edu.ray!issi All of these passed thru sundc early in the process, for whatever that might be worth. -- Karl Swartz |UUCP ames!lll-winken!pacbell!ditka!kls 1-505/667-7777 (work) |Internet kls@rt1.lanl.gov 1-505/672-3113 (home) |BIX kswartz "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education." (Twain)
clarke@acheron.uucp (Ed Clarke/10240000) (09/04/89)
From article <3940@ditka.UUCP>, by kls@ditka.UUCP (Karl Swartz): > > I've been sorely tempted to trash the IBM sendmail in favor of an > unmolested 5.61 version; maybe this is the excuse I've been waiting > for. Of course there are probably many other hacks that will keep > 5.61 from working on AIX without a great deal of painful work. > I picked up the sources from Berkeley. Once you figure out the correct configuration options it works without any changes. I had to pick up bind 4.8 at the same time to get some missing resolver subroutines ( I think that they're normally in libc.a on a bsd system ). I have not tried the IDA modifications. -- Ed Clarke acheron!clarke