testuser@athena.mit.edu (A Test User) (07/12/89)
I'm at MIT this week working with Ted T'so and Ambar to smash the 4.3 bugs out of TMNN. At the moment I am experiencing a vast sense of vindication because after two *long* days of grovelling through the code both of the serious bugs we have tracked down have been in other people's code.... Question for the assembled: does anyone called about DFTSUB and ADMSUB any more? They are ignored by all "third-party" news readers that I know of, and easily defeated (in the case of ADMSUB) by a knowledgable user with a text editor. DFLTSUB doesn't seem to be very useful in an environment which gives a new news user a .newsrc containing every group in the active file. Our inclination is to remove these two bits of cruft, unless someone wants to make compelling arguments that they should stay. More later, but it's late and I must sleep... Eric S. Raymond eric@snark.uu.net
peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (07/13/89)
In article <12610@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, testuser@athena.mit.edu (A Test User) writes: > Question for the assembled: does anyone called about DFTSUB and ADMSUB > any more? (raises hand) Yes, you can get around ADMSUB and DFLTSUB. We use both of these flags at Ferranti and at Sugarland. At Ferranti, we have a set of local newsgroups that everyone subscribes to by default. People have to take an explicit action to see either the Usenet groups or certain administrative groups that we have that are of minimal interest to anyone outside the Developer or Xenix support groups. At Sugarland, we use the Netnews software as the message base for a BBS. People don't have access to text editors or arbitrary files. Again, in this environment DFTSUB and ADMSUB are important. > Our inclination is to remove these two bits > of cruft, unless someone wants to make compelling arguments that they > should stay. Please don't. -- Peter da Silva, Xenix Support, Ferranti International Controls Corporation. Business: peter@ficc.uu.net, +1 713 274 5180. | Th-th-th-that's all folks... Personal: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com. `-_-' | -- Mel Blanc Quote: Have you hugged your wolf today? 'U` | May 30 1908 - Jul 10 1989