[news.software.b] Lines: yet again

geoff@utstat.uucp (Geoff Collyer) (08/31/89)

Once more: we never intended to promise that C news will do all the
same things as B news, so talk of "gratuitous changes" is meaningless.
We didn't start from a B news base.  We simply did not implement some
things that B news did implement.  If you want B news (or A news or
notes), you know where to find it.

We feel that grafting Lines: headers (indeed most headers) onto passing
articles is in poor taste.  In fact Lines: does appear in the
"cherished RFC" (1036), where is it marked "optional".  One more time:

	The behaviour of B news (or C news or A news or notes or NNTP)
	is not a specification for news software, especially not for
	message format.
-- 
Geoff Collyer		utzoo!utstat!geoff, geoff@utstat.toronto.edu

tneff@bfmny0.UUCP (Tom Neff) (08/31/89)

In article <1989Aug31.035929.2430@utstat.uucp> geoff@utstat.uucp (Geoff Collyer) writes:
>	The behaviour of B news (or C news or A news or notes or NNTP)
>	is not a specification for news software, especially not for
>	message format.

By the same token: RFC 1036 *is* a specification, not just a few
interesting ideas on a dinner napkin to be picked and chosen from at
whim, with the parts one doesn't like relegated to an "rfcerrata"
<chuckle> file.  "We regard this and that as an error in the RFC" is not
the most useful attitude one could imagine from the authors of something
like C news, which aspires to broad acceptance itself.  It might be more
seemly to concentrate on the "Cnewserrata" file for now. :-)
-- 
"We walked on the moon --	((	Tom Neff
	you be polite"		 )) 	tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET

geoff@utstat.uucp (Geoff Collyer) (09/01/89)

Agreed that RFC 1036 is a specification, but RFCs (or other
specifications) do sometimes contain errors, and it is unwise to
blindly implement an erroneous specification.  Believe me, we
implemented quite a few things required by RFC 1036 even though we
dislike them (e.g. ihave/sendme); our classification of a few parts of
RFC 1036 as errors was not inspired by our like or dislike of those
parts.

To refute a popular misconception, we are not trying to convince
everyone to run C news.  We find C news useful and hope that some
others will too.  Some people will find that it doesn't suit their
needs and they should not run it.
-- 
Geoff Collyer		utzoo!utstat!geoff, geoff@utstat.toronto.edu