[news.software.b] B news problems

john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) (09/25/89)

I just applied patches 15 through 18 to my news software hoping that a
problem would be fixed; but instead, another was introduced.  The
original problem has to do with the following line from my sys file:

uniwdw:oau,comp.os.minix,comp.unix.xenix,to.uniwdw:F:

2.11.14 and 2.11.18 news will only batch up one or two random articles
a week to this site.  Why?

The new problem introduced with 2.11.18 has to do with the speed of
news unbatching.  It's now taking 2-3 times as long to unbatch news.
Under 2.11.14, my disk lights would stay on continuously until
unbatching was done.  Now, it looks like it's unbatching an article,
sleeping three or four seconds, then doing another article.  Has anyone
else noticed this?
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tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) (09/25/89)

In article <366@jwt.UUCP> john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) writes:
>The new problem introduced with 2.11.18 has to do with the speed of
>news unbatching.  It's now taking 2-3 times as long to unbatch news.
>Under 2.11.14, my disk lights would stay on continuously until
>unbatching was done.  Now, it looks like it's unbatching an article,
>sleeping three or four seconds, then doing another article.  Has anyone
>else noticed this?

I have seen somewhat lengthy processing times, seemingly dependent
on the *length* of the articles being fed to rnews.  For instance
the recent "Elk" 14-part source in comp.sources.misc (I don't know
about the rest of you, but an 800k Scheme interpreter is exactly
what *I* was looking for!) took an agonizingly long time to spool
each article.  (It wasn't the uncompress either -- that only takes
a couple of seconds for 30k->60k.)  I assume we're checking for
something now, but I'm not sure.
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karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) (09/25/89)

john@jwt.uucp writes:
   uniwdw:oau,comp.os.minix,comp.unix.xenix,to.uniwdw:F:

   2.11.14 and 2.11.18 news will only batch up one or two random articles
   a week to this site.  Why?

Add "world," to the beginning of the distributions you send this site.
I find that TFM ("USENET Version B Installation") doesn't actually
document this properly, although every single example sys line does
include the "world" qualifier.

--Karl

rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams) (09/27/89)

> Add "world," to the beginning of the distributions you send this site.
> I find that TFM ("USENET Version B Installation") doesn't actually
> document this properly, although every single example sys line does
> include the "world" qualifier.


From install.mn:

          7.7.  Distributions

               News 2.11 is much more particular about  handling  distribu-
          tions  than  previous versions. In particular, make sure that you
          have the distribution world in every line of your sys file unless
          you  are  specifically limiting the distribution and are sure you
          know what you are doing.


That's pretty clear to me.

karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) (09/27/89)

rick@uunet.uu.net writes:
   | From install.mn:
   | 	     tions  than  previous versions. In particular, make sure that you
   | 	     have the distribution world in every line of your sys file unless

That's what I get for just grep'ing "world" out the post-nroff file.
It's _u_n_d_e_r_l_i_n_e_d so the grep didn't catch it.

--Karl

clewis@ecicrl.UUCP (10/06/89)

In article <14728@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes:
>I have seen somewhat lengthy processing times, seemingly dependent
>on the *length* of the articles being fed to rnews.  For instance
>the recent "Elk" 14-part source in comp.sources.misc
>took an agonizingly long time to spool
>each article.  (It wasn't the uncompress either -- that only takes
>a couple of seconds for 30k->60k.)  I assume we're checking for
>something now, but I'm not sure.

I'm seeing some rather frightening CPU times on the rnews that's
unpacking individual articles.  Like >1.20 CPU *minutes* on *one* 38K
map article.  A 3b1 isn't exactly a screamer, but >1.20 CPU minutes
for a single article is more than a little extreme.  Small articles
go thru relatively quickly.

(I upgraded from 2.11.14 to 2.11.18 too.  Seems to work reasonably
well other than this problem.  I'm System V, so I'm using the 10
sub-history files under history.d, but that shouldn't be the cause
of the problem, for I was running that before....)
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