[news.software.b] spurious inews errors

liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Liz Allen-Mitchell) (01/05/90)

I'm running Cnews -- patch date 23-Jun-1989 which I know is old, but
I'm having a problem and would like to know if it has been fixed before
trying to download patches, etc.

One of my users keeps getting errors when posting to a moderated group.
It appears that the article gets mailed out fine, but he always gets
something like the following in the mail:

	Return-Path: alex
	Return-Path: <alex>
	Received: by grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (4.0/SMI-4.0)
		id AA27720; Thu, 4 Jan 90 01:42:12 PST
	Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 01:42:12 PST
	From: Alex Pournelle <alex>
	Message-Id: <9001040942.AA27720@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> To:
	alex Subject: follow failed

	/local/bin/inews: mailing your article to
		elroy!ames!comp-sys-ibm-pc-digest

	Your response has been saved in ~/dead.letter

	Your article/letter follows:
	Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.digest
	Subject: Re: non-IBM ESDI disks on a PS/2 model 60
	References: <9001032308.AA15967@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>

	[...]

The uucp logs show that the mail was actually sent out.  The fact that
it bounces to dead.letter makes me think that the problem is actually
in mail.  It looks like it is calling /bin/mail (under SunOS 4.0.3,
same as /usr/bin).

Any ideas?
-- 
		- Liz Allen-Mitchell	liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us
					ames!elroy!grian!liz
"God is light; in him there is no darkness at all." -- 1 John 1:5b

henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (01/06/90)

In article <1990Jan4.204831.2326@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Liz Allen-Mitchell) writes:
>One of my users keeps getting errors when posting to a moderated group.
>It appears that the article gets mailed out fine, but he always gets
>something like the following in the mail...

We've never seen anything like that before.  As a first guess, I'd
suspect a mailer or uucp problem.
-- 
1972: Saturn V #15 flight-ready|     Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
1990: birds nesting in engines | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu

mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) (01/07/90)

liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Liz Allen-Mitchell) writes:

>One of my users keeps getting errors when posting to a moderated group.


>	/local/bin/inews: mailing your article to
>		elroy!ames!comp-sys-ibm-pc-digest

>	Your response has been saved in ~/dead.letter

If your user is using the `nn' news reader, the problem is that the
`aux' script checks both the return value from inews and its standard
error output, and assumes an error has occured if either the return
value is non-zero or there is error output.  I fixed `aux' to only
check the return value.  It might be better to display the output
somehow.
-- 
-Gary Mills-             -University of Manitoba-             -Winnipeg-

liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Liz Allen-Mitchell) (01/16/90)

mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:

>liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Liz Allen-Mitchell) writes:

>>One of my users keeps getting errors when posting to a moderated group.


>>	/local/bin/inews: mailing your article to
>>		elroy!ames!comp-sys-ibm-pc-digest

>>	Your response has been saved in ~/dead.letter

>If your user is using the `nn' news reader, the problem is that the
>`aux' script checks both the return value from inews and its standard
>error output, and assumes an error has occured if either the return
>value is non-zero or there is error output.  I fixed `aux' to only
>check the return value.  It might be better to display the output
>somehow.

Thanks -- that was the problem.  I decided to use a "grep -v 'inews:
mailing your article'" in aux to filter the output from inewws.  That
prevents the inews message from ever reaching the user, but if some
other (real) problem occurs, another message would.  I'm not sure this
is the best solution either...
-- 
		- Liz Allen-Mitchell	liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us
					ames!elroy!grian!liz
"God is light; in him there is no darkness at all." -- 1 John 1:5b