greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) (08/02/90)
Is there a "standard" method of getting a feed site to only send a subset of a full news feed to us?. We don't want to drop full heirarchys as we can in the 'sys' file; for example there are an awful lot of groups under comp that we don't want, but there's an awful lot we do too. Is there any accepted way of providing a list of groups to send/not to send other than having a massive sys file entry?. (under C news, B news, anything?). Greyham. -- /* Greyham Stoney: Australia: (02) 428 6476 * greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au - Ausonics Pty Ltd, Lane Cove, Sydney, Oz. * Neurone Server: Brain Cell not Responding. */
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (08/02/90)
In article <783@hades.ausonics.oz.au> greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) writes: >Is there any accepted way of providing a list of groups to send/not to send >other than having a massive sys file entry?. (under C news, B news, anything?). Unfortunately, basically, no. About the only consolation is that C News generally has no limits on line length, which means that it doesn't object to massive sys-file entries. It even handles them moderately efficiently. (This could be improved, and will be, in the next patch or two.) -- The 486 is to a modern CPU as a Jules | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology Verne reprint is to a modern SF novel. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) (08/03/90)
Yes, there is. I have a whole system ready to go. Unfortunately, they're very busy at my main feed, and I wanted to do a live test before releasing the code to the world. I have been waiting for them to set it up. If it takes much longer, I will have to get somebody else to do the live test. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473
bob@omni.com (Bob Weissman) (08/04/90)
In article <783@hades.ausonics.oz.au> greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) writes: >Is there a "standard" method of getting a feed site to only send a subset >of a full news feed to us?. We don't want to drop full heirarchys as we >can in the 'sys' file [...] Yes. Send an electronic mail message, or pick up the telephone and make a call, to the news administrator of your news feed. Ask him or her to modify that system's sys file to send you only the hierarchies and sub-hierarchies that you want. Note that removing a newsgroup or hierarchy from YOUR sys file just sticks all the articles in junk. To save connect time, CPU time, and disk space, you should stop unwanted articles at the source. There really is still some need for human contact in this electronic medium. Fortunately. -- Bob Weissman Internet: bob@omni.com UUCP: ...!{apple,decwrl,pyramid,sgi,uunet}!omni!bob
news@brian386.uucp (News Administrator) (08/06/90)
In article <783@hades.ausonics.oz.au> greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) writes: >Is there a "standard" method of getting a feed site to only send a subset >of a full news feed to us?. We don't want to drop full heirarchys as we >can in the 'sys' file [...] > I got most of this idea from my feed, with Bnews at his site (I think), I modified the idea for feeding my home site. He uses a script file which uses 'sed' to remove unwanted articles. I used a script sorta like: sed -e '/\/amiga\//d' \ -e '/\/apple\//d' < togo > new.togo mv new.togo togo This script was called local.procs and placed in the out.going/system sub-directory. Then all I had to do was add if [ -f local.procs ] then ./local.procs fi to the sendbatches file after the cd to the out.going/system sub-directory. This is an easy kludge which is pretty quick, and seems to get quicker as the sys line gets longer. In the sys file, I now use system:all So no special processing is required in 'relaynews'. brian
marka@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Mark Andrews) (08/06/90)
In article <3372@borabora.omni.com> bob@borabora.omni.com (Bob Weissman) writes: |In article <783@hades.ausonics.oz.au> greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) writes: |>Is there a "standard" method of getting a feed site to only send a subset |>of a full news feed to us?. We don't want to drop full heirarchys as we |>can in the 'sys' file [...] | |Yes. Send an electronic mail message, or pick up the telephone and |make a call, to the news administrator of your news feed. Ask him or |her to modify that system's sys file to send you only the hierarchies |and sub-hierarchies that you want. | |Note that removing a newsgroup or hierarchy from YOUR sys file just |sticks all the articles in junk. To save connect time, CPU time, and |disk space, you should stop unwanted articles at the source. | |There really is still some need for human contact in this electronic |medium. Fortunately. | |-- |Bob Weissman |Internet: bob@omni.com |UUCP: ...!{apple,decwrl,pyramid,sgi,uunet}!omni!bob Or you can post to news.software.b :-) I'm the news admin of the upstream site. Greyham was after someother means than editing the sys file. Greyham was wanting to exclude some 183 newsgroups/heirachies from a full feed. I'd hate to think what my sys file would be like if it was done there. I'd done this sort of thing before so it was no problem, that time it was to limit the long distance charges (Melbourne to Mackey, that's as expensive as it comes inside Aus). A little postprocessing with a shell script before batching works wonders. Mark.
jv@mh.nl (Johan Vromans) (08/06/90)
In article <1990Aug06.020843.10532@brian386.uucp> news@brian386.uucp (News Administrator) writes: > In article <783@hades.ausonics.oz.au> greyham@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Greyham Stoney) writes: > >Is there a "standard" method of getting a feed site to only send a subset > >of a full news feed to us?. We don't want to drop full heirarchys as we > >can in the 'sys' file [...] I use a setup in which users send their .newsrc files to the server system, and the server sends only those articles to the client for which there are subscribed newsgroups. Effectivily cuts the amount of data transmitted to below 10% for most sites, with a resolution per newsgroup, not distribution. I use this to feed some sites via UUCP. It is one program, written in Perl, one line change to the sys file, and a few lines in the hourly news daemon. The current version has one bug: it does not take the "Path:" header into account. This means you get a duplicate article for each article you post yourself. Oh well. Disclaimer: the program works for me, and may not do what *YOU* want it to. Johan -- Johan Vromans jv@mh.nl via internet backbones Multihouse Automatisering bv uucp: ..!{uunet,hp4nl}!mh.nl!jv Doesburgweg 7, 2803 PL Gouda, The Netherlands phone/fax: +31 1820 62911/62500 ------------------------ "Arms are made for hugging" -------------------------