lyndon@cs.athabascau.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg) (08/10/90)
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >I would be interested to hear exactly what you think they could do, and >so would most of the sites in question. They could leave the issue of routing mail to the MTA, where it should be in the first place. It's not *that* hard to install an MTA that knows to punt unresolved addresses to a "smart" host. That allows you to "#define INTERNET" or perform whatever other magic incantations are necessary to eradicate the unnecessary use of the Path: header in generating email reply addresses. If you're capable of obtaining and installing [bc]news, you're capable of installing one of the many versions of smail. Do it. -- Lyndon Nerenberg VE6BBM / Computing Services / Athabasca University {alberta,cbmvax,mips}!atha!lyndon || lyndon@cs.athabascau.ca Practice Safe Government Use Kingdoms
urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) (08/11/90)
In news.software.b, article <24@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca>,
lyndon@cs.athabascau.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes:
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< If you're capable of obtaining and installing [bc]news, you're capable
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It would help if all the packages like rn, elm, whatever, would (in their
configuration questions) default to the assumption that there is an underlying
RFC822-compatible MTA, and if the documentation would stress the fact that
installing one of these is a better idea than depending on the old stuff.
Case in point: the new trn, whose installation script still defaults to NO for
the INTERNET option.
Changing these defaults would make installation at those sites a bit more
difficult, therefore giving people an incentive to inquire how to improve the
situation (as opposed to using Path: for replies, the mail user agent for
routing, and depending on everyone else to fix their addresses...)
Comments?
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Humboldtstrasse 7 - 7500 Karlsruhe 1 - FRG -- +49+721+621127(Voice)/621227(PEP)tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) (08/13/90)
In article <1kt!e2.851@smurf.sub.org> urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) writes: >Case in point: the new trn, whose installation script still defaults to NO for >the INTERNET option. >Comments? Absolutely right. The default these days should be #define INTERNET. Let the dumb-mailer minority make the configuration change. Or if we want to be really super nice, let the configuration script check for the existence of only dumb UUCP mailers, then complain loudly to the user and undef INTERNET too. -- "I feel like I know her, but sometimes /\/\ Tom Neff my arms bend back." -- Laura's dream cousin / / \ tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM