[news.software.b] appending .signature file

sarafian@dsp.analog.com (Alex Sarafian) (06/04/91)

How do I get Pnews to append more than the first four lines of 
.signature files to posted messages.  We are using Cnews, if that's
any help.


Thanks.


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brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) (06/26/91)

Perhaps we should get down to it and add a new header line to the RFC in the
next revision.

"Trailer" would be a header that was a trailing comment.   The newsreader
would be expected to display the trailer, if the user desires, at the
end of a read article.

In fact, one might expect that the newsreader would display the From line,
Organization line and Trailer at the end of a message, with the From also
appearing at the top.

Indeed, a reader could let the user control which headers appear at the top
and which at the bottom.

Formalizing this would eliminate the problem of duplicated signatures, and
some of the other problems with them -- such as the fact that they get searched
by kill files and filter programs and have no real definition.

Such a commonly long header item would strain or break some software, I guess.
That's not necessarily evil, either in that it forces people to fix the
software or keeps sigs down.

We could go even further, and formalize parts of this trailing comment,
so that readers could read just what they wanted.

So in a less serious vein we could have headers like:

	Redundant-email-addresses:
	Cute-Aphorism:
	Postal-Address:
	Ascii-graphic:
	Favourite-ball-team:
	Strange-distribution-rules-in-the-name-of-freedom-of-information:
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emv@msen.com (Ed Vielmetti) (06/26/91)

In article <1991Jun25.203817.11346@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes:

   Perhaps we should get down to it and add a new header line to the RFC in the
   next revision.

   "Trailer" would be a header that was a trailing comment.   The newsreader
   would be expected to display the trailer, if the user desires, at the
   end of a read article.

Not necessary; the draft internet standard for multipart, multimedia
internet mail already takes care of this.

You put in a header field "Content-type:" which defines a part separator
(see the headers of this message), and divide up the pieces with that.
In this case I used "emv", but it could be anything.

If you really wanted to you could make a special Content-type: which was
a signature, but really that's not needed.  Or you could define a
signature type as a "richtext" tag.

The specs can be had from the files described in the 2d part of this
three-part message.

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-- MSEN Archive Service file verification
thumper.bellcore.com
total 461
-rw-r--r--  1  4099       115424 Jun 20 15:27 BodyFormats.txt
-rw-r--r--  1  4099       195185 Jun 18 20:03 BodyFormats.ps
-rw-r--r--  1  4099        87190 Jun 18 20:03 BodyFormats.ez
-rw-r--r--  1  4099        13952 Jun 18 14:27 Configuration.ez
-rw-r--r--  1  4099        18178 Jun 18 02:55 Configuration.txt
-rw-r--r--  1  4099        39301 Jun 18 02:55 Configuration.ps
found richmail ok
thumper.bellcore.com:/pub/nsb/

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brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) (06/29/91)

Something like this isn't enough.   While I have never liked signatures
and feel they are abused, it is also clear that they are here to stay and
should be formalized.

Splitting the article into parts, while useful, is not the same as formalizing
the signature, unless you have tags or some other indication that the last part
(or one of the last parts) is the signature.

Mind you, if the readers could be set to display From and Org lines at the
bottom of an article (instead of/as well as) the top then we might have a lot
less signature abuse.
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