[news.config] Net Politics

root@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user) (01/23/90)

hello netlanders,

i'd like to post this article to thank all who have responded to my request
for help/advice with usenet politics.  i received a slew of mail in response
to my previous posting and ALL of it contained responses such as "his software
is severely broken" or "sounds like he is mis-managing a mail list or e-mail
to news gateway".  -- i knew his software/configuration is hosed [slightly],
THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING FOR HELP WITH ``NET POLITICS''.

as i stated in my last posting i am having a problem with chem.ecsd.edu
reposting news articles.  this site/domain reposts any and all articles posted
pubnet.nixpub.  i mentioned that i had been in contact with the admin for the
offending site and he told me that he could only correct the problem if the
site stopped forwarding the group.  he explained that apparently some site
thinks that this pubnet.nixpub is moderated and his site just re-acting.  at
his suggestion, i sent out several control messages (over the course of the
last month) -- this, of course, did not solve anything.  the group is NOT
moderated and shouldn't be marked as such.

i am sure this would be a much more pressing issue if the problem group were
in comp, news, rec ... but it is not.  my question is what do i do at this
point??  i could continue to ask the admin out there to fix it, i could find
some governing usenet body -- i have never heard of one but maybe i have
missed something, i could just put up with it, or i could stop posting my
lists to that group.

any ideas ??


-- 
Phil Eschallier
System Administration for lgnp1 -- Mail/News gateway for LS.COM
ARPA:  root@LS.COM
UUCP:  ...!uunet!lgnp1!root

bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (01/25/90)

In article <5303@lgnp1.LS.COM> root@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user) writes:
|[...]
|as i stated in my last posting i am having a problem with chem.ecsd.edu
|reposting news articles.  this site/domain reposts any and all articles posted
|pubnet.nixpub.  i mentioned that i had been in contact with the admin for the
|offending site and he told me that he could only correct the problem if the
|site stopped forwarding the group.  he explained that apparently some site
|thinks that this pubnet.nixpub is moderated and his site just re-acting.  at
|his suggestion, i sent out several control messages (over the course of the
|last month) -- this, of course, did not solve anything.  the group is NOT
|moderated and shouldn't be marked as such.

	As far as I know the result of a moderated
	group is to mail the article to the moderator,
	usually via a backbone site (unless they're
	running News 2.10 or something).

	If some site erroneously has "pubnet.nixpub"
	marked moderated, they would mail posted articles
	to "uunet!pubnet-nixpub", or to the site that's
	listed as "backbone" in the mailpaths file.
	There's no way it should get reposted unless
	somebody's software is broken somewhere.

	Either the admin at the offending site has
	configured things wrong, or else he should be
	trying to help find out the name of "some site"
	by sending you the information from the "Path:"
	header line of some selected "pubnet.nixpub"
	articles from his site. You might try to arrange
	this with him and then post a test article or 2.

	It may be that someone downstream has hacked
	news on a personal machine and hasn't quite
	understood how it all works in every detail...

Good luck,
-- 
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