[net.periphs] M43 ribbons and Teletype Corp. patents

parnass@ihuxf.UUCP (06/22/83)

       The following note appeared recently in 'net.periphs':
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	    I have been	having	trouble	 with  the  ribbon  advance
	    mechanism on a TTY,	Model 43 KSR.  Sometimes the ribbon
	    fails to advance when the print-head is on	its  return
	    movement.

	    TTY	 serviceman  came  out,	 cleaned  the  machine	and
	    replaced  the  ribbon,  claim- ing that the	problem	was
	    due	to our *not* using a proper ribbon with	a  Teletype
	    part  no,  that  the  ribbon  was probably "stretched",
	    etc.,etc.

	    The	ribbons	we  have  been	using  have  the  following
	    legend  on	the  case: "Mfd. under license from Western
	    Electric Co.  U.S.	Pat.  #	 4.046.247.   Made  in	USA
	    240".

	    Am I wrong to assume that Western would be able to sup-
	    ply	 the  specifications  for ribbons for use on TTY43s
	    and	that the license implies that the ribbons so  pack-
	    aged meet these specs?  I assume that Western and Tele-
	    type and Bell Labs are [still] talking to  each  other.
	    Neverthless,  a call to Skokie simply confirms that	the
	    NIH	syndrome is endemic in Teletype	Corp.

	    Can	anyone comment on this?
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       I think that you	are confusing a	license	 to  use  a  patent
       with  a	rigid  set of quality standards	that a competitor's
       product must meet.

       It looks	like you bought	a "generic" brand cartridge  ribbon
       assembly	 for  use  in a	Teletype Corporation product.  Your
       ribbon assembly is constructed in such a	way that  it  makes
       use  of	a  patented  cartridge	design	to hold	the ribbon.
       Since this cartridge was	invented  at  Teletype	Corporation
       (subsidiary  of Western Electric	Company), the manufacturers
       of your assembly	had to obtain a	license	from WECo.

       This does not mean that your assembly will work	well  in  a
       43KSR!	Your  cartridge	 might	be out of tolerance or your
       ribbon may indeed be stretched.

       Patent abstracts	are printed in the "Official Gazette", pub-
       lished  by  the	U.  S.	Department  of Commerce, Patent	and
       Trademark Office.  The September	6, 1977	 issue	(Volume	 1,
       Number	1)   of	 the  "Official	 Gazette"  contains  patent
       4,046,247 for a "Printer	Ribbon	Cartridge"  by	Richard	 E.
       LaSpesa	and  Alfred  Z.	 Purzycki,  assignors  to  Teletype
       Corporation.

       This patent contains 10 claims and is for "An improved  car-
       tridge  for a printer ribbon of the type	in which an endless
       band of of the ribbon is	storable prior to use of the ribbon
       in   a	printer,  the  cartridge  being	 mountable  in	the
       printer..."

       Notice that this	patent is for the cartridge, NOT  the  rib-
       bon.

	       Robert S. Parnass
	       Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL 60566

	       (312)979-5760	 ihnp4!ihuxf!parnass

       P. S. -I	worked at Teletype Corp. from June 1978	until Janu-
       ary 1983.  I am not a patent attorney.