bts@sas.UUCP (Brian T. Schellenberger) (05/14/88)
TeXhax Digest Thursday, May 12, 1988 Volume 88 : Issue 45
[SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]<TEX.TEXHAX>TEXHAX45.88
Moderator: Malcolm Brown
Today's Topics:
VAX VMS manual typesetting
Problem with "Page Layout in LaTeX" from latest TUGboat
Underlined and Centered text in LaTeX macro
Painless way to typeset EVERYTHING in sans-serif
LaTeX Problem with \extracolsep
dvialw patch to workaround UltraScript bug
Square brackets
Troubles with floats
Nonbreaking hyphens
Displaying text within large brackets
DVI to Ricoh 4081-R1 ?
TeX/LaTeX Circuit diagrams
Looking for TeX for the Amiga...
A latex problem
Need LaTeX help - underlining
MAKEINDEX.ARC @ SCIENCE.UTAH needs editing
Problems with LAYOUT.STY
MAC TeX? Drivers for IBM PS/80?
footnotes in Latex.
Problem with nested footnotes
BibTex questions: summary of response
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Date: Mon 2 May 88 12:01:52-MDT
From: "Nelson H.F. Beebe" <Beebe@SCIENCE.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: VAX VMS manual typesetting
>> Date: 27 Apr 88 10:03:00 EST
>> From: "Michael J. Porter" <mike@vax.oit.udel.edu>
>> Subject: VMS manuals in TeX
>>
>> I noticed recently that DEC's VMS manuals are typeset using TeX.
>> (See the back of the title page). Does anyone have a copy of
>> their style|format? I would like to document our local run-time
>> routines in a fashion similar to DEC.
>>
>> Mike Porter
My recollection from conversations with Chuck Dupree, former
secretary of TUG, who was involved with the VAX VMS manual
typesetting effort is that the many authors of the manuals
continued to write in the old in-house word processor format
(apparently NOT runoff), and that a conversion program took
that format and converted it to Plain TeX. Perhaps someone
currently involved with the VMS documentation effort can
bring us up to date on this ambitious, and impressive, use
of TeX.
I would be surprised if DEC did not guard the macros closely
as a proprietary trade secret. Perhaps DECUS could put
pressure on them to make them available to encourage
in-house VMS documentation to conform to corporate
documentation.
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From: DBUERGER%SCU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Date: Mon, 2 May 88 11:25 PDT
Subject: Problem with "Page Layout in LaTeX" from latest TUGboat
The LaTeX style file code published in TUGboat, vol. 9 (1988) no. 1,
pp. 80-82 ("Page Layout in LaTeX") is incorrect and will not work.
Apparently author Kent McPherson submitted his article in LaTeX source,
and TUGboat translated this into Plain TeX source plus made other
modifications.
A different style file has been created by Kent (who doesn't have net
access). It works on his VAX that runs LaTeX dated 7 Jan 86, with an
article style file dated 17 Dec 85. However, this style file does *not*
work on my VAX or PC, which both run LaTeX dated 15 Sept. 87, article
style file dated 9 Jun 87. Both of us run unmodified LaTeX and style
files.
Kent is updating his version of TeX and LaTeX, and will release a
LAYOUT.STY file that works on the most recent releases. I will post a
copy to TeXHaX, probably within a month, when his corrected style file
is available.
David Buerger
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Date: 2 May 88 16:07 -0600
From: Jim Walker <walkerj%wnre.aecl.cdn%ean.ubc.ca@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Underlined and Centered text in LaTeX macro
I have a macro which contains
\begin{center}
\underline{#1}
\end{center}
This works fine provided #1 is not too long. If #1 is long then the text is
not broken into lines and overfull hbox results. I know that underlined
text is poor document design, but does anyone have a solution to this
problem?
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From: RALPH%UHHEPG.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Painless way to typeset EVERYTHING in sans-serif
Date: 2-MAY-1988 22:33:54.12
Im sure this question has been asked hundred times already, but I still
don't know how to do it (forgive a beginner);
Using standard LaTeX, what is the simplest way to have a ``whole'' document
typeset using only \sf type fonts ?
Everything means: everything, except math italic and math symbol.
I tried the real stupid approach: \def\rm$\sf. That works quite well. What
is left are:
- \it, \sf and therefore \em, they switch to italic/slanted ROMAN
- \bf (used extensively in chapter headings and such), switches to
boldface roman,
- footnotemarks. As they are typeset as $$number$ they use math numbers,
which are in roman again.
The last one I know how to take care of (redefine the command which makes
the footnote mark), the first two I don't.
The real hassle is the following: I wouldn't mind some characters being from
the wrong font (at this early stage, I sure will mind later), but the laser
printer has to load a whole set of roman font, just because of a chapter
heading and some emphesized text, so it can't do a single page without having
to reload fonts all the time. I would love to get rid of that.
Thanks a lot in advance !
Ralph Becker-Szendy RALPH@UHHEPG.PHYS.HAWAII.EDU
University of Hawaii / High Energy Physics Group RALPH@UHHEPG.BITNET
Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822 (808)948-7391
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From: trwrb!trwspp!spp3!simpson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Scott Simpson)
Date: 2 May 1988 1116-PDT (Monday)
Subject: LaTeX Problem with \extracolsep
The following doesn't work.
\documentstyle[11pt]{article}
\begin{document}
% Create a table with two entries.
\begin{tabular*}{1in}[t]{@{\extracolsep{\fill}}|c|}
\hline
text1\\
\hline
text2\\
\hline
\end{tabular*}
\end{document}
The box doesn't fill out. Can anybody help me or should I try plain
TeX's \halign?
Scott Simpson
TRW Space and Defense Sector
...{decvax,ihnp4,ucbvax}!trwrb!simpson (UUCP)
trwrb!simpson@trwind.trw.com (Internet)
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Date: Tue, 3 May 88 10:51:30 PDT
From: Max Hailperin <HAILPERIN@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: dvialw patch to workaround UltraScript bug
A bug in early versions of Imagen's UltraScript (= PostScript clone)
prevents it from working correctly with Beebe's dvi-alw, among others.
Imagen claims that it will be fixed in the next version. They also
have a patch you can install to make any driver encountering the
problem (symptom: InvalidAccess error) work, at the expense of some
overhead doing an exception handler trap.
However, the point of this note is to report that I have a workaround
patch for dvi-alw (actually, it's prolog file, dvi-alw.ps). This patch
has some overhead of its own, if you use a few characters apiece from lots
of fonts, but it should be quite minimal.
Below is a diff between version 17 (18-Sep-87) of dvi-alw.ps and my patched
version:
0a1,3
> % Local patch, 3-May-88 09:27:07, Edit by HAILPERIN
> % Moved encoding generation/recording from D to NF so as to workaround
> % bug in early versions of UltraScript.
173c176,180
< currentfont /Encoding get ch-code dup 3 string cvs cvn put
---
> % Commented out the following line to workaround bug in early UltraScript
> % versions (which cause the encoding table to be write protected). The
> % encodings are instead all generated/recorded at font definition (NF) time.
> % -Max Hailprin 5/3/88
> % currentfont /Encoding get ch-code dup 3 string cvs cvn put
244c251,256
< 0 1 127 { Encoding exch /.notdef put } for
---
> % The following line was added as a workaround for a bug in early UltraScript
> % versions. The functionality was previously done incrementally at character
> % definition (D) time. The second line below was commented out as part of
> % this patch. -Max Hailperin, 5/3/88
> 0 1 127 { Encoding exch dup 3 string cvs cvn put } for
> % 0 1 127 { Encoding exch /.notdef put } for
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Date: Tue, 3 May 88 13:20:28 CDT
From: cynthia quinn <U27095%UICVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Square brackets
We just received new terminal that do not have square brackets and we
are having problems when trying to do this in LaTeX
\documentstyle[12pt]{article}
How can I define some other character to do the job?
Thank you
Cynthia Quinn@uicvm.bitnet
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Date: Tue, 3 May 88 15:00 EST
From: "Kang Sun <sun@yalevms.bitnet,sun@venus.ycc.yale.edu>"
Subject: Troubles with floats
Greetings,
I am having troubles with floats. I have about 11 figures and 10
tables. I was trying to put them all at the end of the text. However,
LaTex told me that "too many unprocessed floats". I guess LaTex would
process these float only if it saw \end{document}. Is there any other
ways to enforce the processing of floats? I use begin{figure}[p] to put
each figure in one page.
Then, I was trying to put all the pictures, tables in the middle of
the text. What happened was that figure 1, and tables 1 -- 7 were put inside
the text while the rest of floats were put at the end of the paper (after
the referece). I wonder how this could happen! Since my references takes
about 20 pages and the whole paper (plus floats) takes about 80 pages, I
expected all the floats show up in the middle of the text, or at least
before the references.
Another thing is, few figures are too large to fit in
one page. I divide the figure into two pages, one page for pasting the
picture and the second page for the legend. What happened was the first
page of figure 2 appeared on page 27 and the second page of figure 2 appeared
on page 53. Is there a way to control the placements of figures so one
can follow the other?
This is an emergency. I appreciate your early response. Please
response to me directly if possible.
-- Kang Sun
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Subject: Nonbreaking hyphens
Date: Tue, 03 May 88 16:19:56 PDT
From: jimc@math.ucla.edu
I am typesetting a tonal language and am using leading punctuation,
specifically `-', for the tone marks. I get linebreaks like this: `-
'. Here are two macros that fail to cure the problem. Can anyone advise
how to suppress the line break after a hyphen in selected contexts
while allowing breaks at explicit hyphens in English text?
\def\q-{{\exhyphenpenalty=10000`-'}} %Quoted hyphen `-'
\def\gzn#1{{\exhyphenpenalty=10000\relax#1}} %Running text (poss. numbers)
James F. Carter (213) 825-2897
UCLA-Mathnet; 6608B MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA 90024-1555
UUCP:...!{ihnp4,ucbvax,sdcrdcf,{hao!cepu}}!ucla-cs!math.ucla.edu!jimc
ARPA: jimc@math.ucla.edu BITNET: jimc%math.ucla.edu@INTERBIT
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Date: Tue, 3 May 88 13:22 GMT
From: Peter Flynn UCC <CBTS8001%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Displaying text within large brackets
I need some text set between large square brackets, eg
--- ---
| A glooming peace this morning |
| with it brings / The sun for |
| sorrow will not show his head |
| Go hence to have more talk of |
| these sad things / Some shall |
| be pardoned and some punished |
--- ---
If I say :
\newbox\boxa
\setbox\boxa=\vbox{\hsize=2in A glooming peace this morning with
it bringsc/ The sun for sorrow will not show his headc/ Go hence
to have more talk of these sad thingsc/ Some shall be pardoned
and some punish\`ed}
$$\left[\box\boxa\right]$$
then the square brackets extend way way down beneath the end of the text,
enclosing a whole pile of blank space which is not specified. Clearly I
have misunderstood something about math mode. What is it? I need to do
this lots of times: I am certainly not going measuring each para so that
I can say \vbox to<dimen> each time by hand!
Peter Flynn <cbts8001@vax1.ucc.ie>
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Date: Tue, 3 May 88 18:48:25 BST
From: David Wright <mcvax!stl.stc.co.uk!DWW@uunet.UU.NET>
Subject: DVI to Ricoh 4081-R1 ?
Is there an existing TeX DVI filter for the Ricoh 4081 laser printer?
We'll be running it on UNIX Sys V, but we could probably port from other OS's.
I don't fancy trying to produce a filter from scratch though, especially with
the limited information we have on the 4081's command language.
Thanks for any help you can give.
David Wright, dww@stl.stc.co.uk <OR> ...uunet!mcvax!ukc!stl!dww
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From: 2044MCCORMIC%MUCSD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Date: Wed, 4 May 88 11:14 CDT
Subject: TeX/LaTeX Circuit diagrams
I'm inquiring if anyone has any knowledge or ideas on how one could do
electrical and mechanical circuit schematics directly in a TeX/LaTeX
wordprocessing sourcecode for directly `printing in' an engineering
diagram, rather than doing them by hand after the final version has been
output. The idea being that the symbols would be created in METAFONT and then
be `laid out' at the place in the Tex/LaTeX file instead of just designating
a vertical and horizontal skip to be filled in later by photocopying. This is
a tentative programming project that I regretfully won't be able to do, but
any information to assist in learning how it could be done by someone would be
appreciated for future users.
Respectfully, Dale McCormick
c
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Date: Wed, 04 May 88 16:53 EST
From: WURST%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Looking for TeX for the Amiga...
I have a frend who wants to run TeX on his Amiga. Does
have any information on TeX or LaTex (preferably Public Domain),
and a screen previewer for the Amiga?
Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Karl R. Wurst
Computer Science and Engineering, U-155 BITNET: WURST@UCONNVM
University of Connecticut CSNET : WURST@UCONN
Storrs, CT 06268
"Things fall apart. It's scientific." - David Byrne
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Date: Thu, 5 May 88 14:24:01 EDT
From: clayton@thumper.bellcore.com (R. Clayton)
Subject: A latex problem
When formatting the document shown below, latex puts an line of white
space between paragraphs when the condition stated in the paragraph
holds. Changing "\par" to a blank line doesn't remove the white
space, but deleting the figure definition does.
One solution to this problem is to rewrite the paragraph so the
condition doesn't hold. Somebody else may be able to think of a
better solution.
\documentstyle{article}
\begin{document}
The last line of this paragraph should touch the right margin to show
the problem. A ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a
ab abc abc.
\begin{figure} \caption{One} \end{figure}
\par
The last line of this paragraph should touch the right margin to show
the problem. A ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a
ab abc abc.
\begin{figure} \caption{Two} \end{figure}
\par
The last line of this paragraph should touch the right margin to show
the problem. A ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a ab abc a
ab abc abc.
\begin{figure} \caption{Three} \end{figure}
\end{document}
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Date: Thu, 5 May 88 15:51:38 CDT
From: Ken Hill - Patently patented. <khill@home.csc.ti.com>
Subject: Need LaTeX help - underlining
This may be a very simple thing to do, but I haven't been able to make
it work, and haven't seen anyone address the issue in old Digests
available here.
Certain legal documents are required to use underlined text, for
blocks of up to paragraph size. I can underline a word at a time, but
there has to be a better way to do it. I have been completely unable
to make underlining for a large block of text work as it should.
Linebreaking doesn't seem to work at all, and if I break lines
manually (ugly in itself) they aren't adjusted properly. (Seems to go
into left to right mode or something)
Thus: how can I underline a large block of text (up to a paragraph)
properly in normal paragraph mode? All suggestions welcome,
including code for macros or new commands.
I am using LaTeX 2.09 on a VAX (VMS). I can figure out most of L.
Lamport's LaTeX manual with a little work, but don't know anything
about TeX.
Thanx!
There are no typos. If you think you saw one, see an opthamolo... optaha...
ophthamal... eye doctor.
Ken Hill
{convex!smu, texsun,im4u,seismo!ut-sally!im4u}!ti-csl!khill
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Date: Thu 5 May 88 15:09:31-PDT
From: Ted Shapin <BEC.SHAPIN@ECLA.USC.EDU>
Subject: MAKEINDEX.ARC @ SCIENCE.UTAH needs editing
I downloaded MAKEINDEX.ARC from APS:<TEX.PUB.MAKEINDEX> at SCIENCE.UTAH.EDU.
The whole file is 512644 bytes. As you can see from the contents listing below,
a large part of this (267841 bytes) is the compressed file IND.PS. This
is the postscript output of a paper on MAKEINDEX. It should *not* be
included, because (a) it assumes a postscript printer is available, (b)
this file assumes a postscript write-black engine, (c) this file assumes
pages stack in reverse order, (d) this assumes people cannot generate
their own output from the document sources. All of these assumptions may be
false. [I should add that this paper uses \special features of a particular
dvi2ps driver.]
Ted Shapin, Beckman Instruments, Fullerton, CA.
- - - -
Archive: MAKEINDE.ARC
Name Length Stowage SF Size now Date Time CRC
============ ======== ======== ==== ======== ========= ====== ====
DOC.ARC 58980 ----- 0% 58980 28 Jan 88 07:51 580B
MAC.ARC 3780 ----- 0% 3780 13 Jan 88 16:56 08FC
MAKEINDX.EXE 67072 Crunched 24% 50620 30 Jan 88 13:25 2071
PAPER.ARC 312104 ----- 0% 312104 20 Jan 88 16:53 183B
README 2282 Crunched 33% 1512 28 Jan 88 07:56 3F99
SRC.ARC 85648 ----- 0% 85648 27 Jan 88 23:19 35A0
*total 6 529866 3% 512644
Archive: DOC.ARC
Name Length Stowage SF Size now Date Time CRC
============ ======== ======== ==== ======== ========= ====== ====
MAKEINDE.AUX 965 Crunched 47% 507 13 Jan 88 16:56 BBD2
MAKEINDE.INF 25714 Crunched 61% 9786 28 Jan 88 07:51 8909
MAKEINDE.L 17479 Crunched 51% 8409 13 Jan 88 16:55 C5B5
MAKEINDE.PS 45821 Crunched 49% 23257 13 Jan 88 17:04 BAEE
MAKEINDE.TEX 17795 Crunched 52% 8538 27 Jan 88 21:17 65A0
MAKEINDE.VMS 23001 Crunched 63% 8307 28 Jan 88 07:46 E835
*total 6 130775 55% 58804
Archive: MAC.ARC
Name Length Stowage SF Size now Date Time CRC
============ ======== ======== ==== ======== ========= ====== ====
IDXMAC.TEX 7282 Crunched 48% 3749 13 Jan 88 16:56 6DE6
*total 1 7282 48% 3749
Archive: PAPER.ARC
Name Length Stowage SF Size now Date Time CRC
============ ======== ======== ==== ======== ========= ====== ====
FIG1.PS 3555 Crunched 61% 1379 13 Jan 88 16:56 195B
IND.AUX 5479 Crunched 56% 2387 13 Jan 88 16:56 B629
IND.BBL 4370 Crunched 42% 2508 13 Jan 88 16:56 75CC
IND.PS 776838 Crunched 65% 267841 20 Jan 88 16:53 4E79
IND.TEX 69042 Crunched 50% 34237 13 Jan 88 16:56 435E
IND1.TEX 712 Crunched 33% 477 13 Jan 88 16:56 AC1C
IND2.TEX 16 ----- 3% 16 13 Jan 88 16:56 EF28
LOGO.TEX 2278 Crunched 52% 1092 13 Jan 88 16:56 5C75
PS.TEX 98 Crunched 4% 94 13 Jan 88 16:56 D809
README 602 Crunched 24% 457 13 Jan 88 16:56 40B7
REGMAR.STY 2107 Crunched 51% 1020 13 Jan 88 16:56 84B6
UNDHEAD.STY 322 Crunched 23% 246 13 Jan 88 16:56 C945
*total 12 865419 63% 311754
Archive: SRC.ARC
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00REVHST.TXT 8218 Crunched 50% 4080 27 Jan 88 21:13 72A9
GENIND.C 7762 Crunched 50% 3830 16 Jan 88 15:08 04A8
GENIND.H 1700 Crunched 41% 1002 16 Jan 88 12:13 63E8
MAKEFILE 2561 Crunched 44% 1427 16 Jan 88 23:45 A0D6
MAKEFILE.KCC 2643 Crunched 43% 1499 27 Jan 88 23:19 7A3D
MAKEFILE.MSC 2776 Crunched 41% 1625 18 Jan 88 16:36 6695
MAKEFILE.PCC 2549 Crunched 44% 1418 27 Jan 88 23:19 D979
MAKEFILE.UNX 2237 Crunched 45% 1211 16 Jan 88 22:59 3EE1
MAKEFILE.VMS 2609 Crunched 43% 1467 16 Jan 88 23:46 8F11
MKIND.C 8098 Crunched 50% 3990 16 Jan 88 15:08 A10B
MKIND.H 14107 Crunched 51% 6906 16 Jan 88 22:37 6A14
QSORT.C 5917 Crunched 49% 2993 18 Jan 88 16:25 24F4
SCANID.C 12303 Crunched 55% 5532 27 Jan 88 17:32 51AC
SCANID.H 3333 Crunched 48% 1708 27 Jan 88 17:36 EC14
SCANST.C 12898 Crunched 56% 5630 16 Jan 88 16:05 E0DD
SCANST.H 4787 Crunched 49% 2432 16 Jan 88 12:10 68E9
SORTID.C 3150 Crunched 43% 1768 16 Jan 88 22:34 6D63
TEST.AUX 965 Crunched 47% 507 16 Jan 88 19:55 BBD2
TEST.DVI 30344 Crunched 42% 17589 16 Jan 88 19:56 07D9
TEST.IDX 4974 Crunched 61% 1910 27 Jan 88 21:14 C2E8
TEST.ILG 461 Crunched 23% 351 16 Jan 88 19:40 1ECD
TEST.IND 3608 Crunched 56% 1576 27 Jan 88 21:14 48FF
TEST.LST 8974 Crunched 54% 4116 16 Jan 88 19:55 2A8C
TEST.TEX 22249 Crunched 53% 10383 27 Jan 88 21:14 4C56
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Date: Thu, 5 May 88 18:39 EST
From: <DEDINA%IUBACS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Problems with LAYOUT.STY
In the most recent TUGboat (Vol. 9 No. 1), Kent McPherson presents a LaTeX
substyle option called LAYOUT.STY which graphically displays page layout
parameters. (This is not to be confused with the LAYOUT.STY which resides in
the rochester collection). It looks quite useful, so I typed it in, but it
doesn't work. This may be due to my own errors in typing in the program, but I
suspect not (I've found at least one ``real'' error). Does anyone have a
non-buggy version of LAYOUT.STY they can send me? Thanks.
Mike Dedina
Indiana University Speech Research Lab
dedina@gold.bacs.indiana.edu
dedina@iubacs.bitnet
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Date: Fri, 06 May 88 09:52:55 EDT
From: Brian Holmes <BHOLMES%WAYNEST1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MAC TeX? Drivers for IBM PS/80?
I was wondering if anyone knows of a distributor of TeX for the
MACINTOSH that is located in the U.S.? We recently ordered a version
from a distributor in Canada, but we couldn't get it through customs.
After looking through DRIVERS PREVIEW and DRIVERS LASER, I was wondering
if someone could tell me if there is a PD previewer or postscript driver
for an IBM PS/80. I looked through these lists, but no adresses or
net-addresses were given, so I don't know who to contact. Are any of
those listed PD?
* Brian Holmes *
* Wayne State University *
* Detroit Michigan *
* *
* BITNET : BHOLMES@WAYNEST1 *
* INTERNET : Brian_Holmes%WU@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU *
* UUCP : {UMIX|ITIVAX}!WAYNE-MTS!BRIAN_HOLMES *
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Date: Friday, 6 May 1988 14:35:38 NZT
From: CCC032U@aucc4341
Subject: footnotes in Latex.
First a little background info: We run TeX on an IBM 4341 under VM/CMS. We got
our TeX distribution from Maria Code in Jan this year. The Latex version is
May '86. I have converted Nelson Beebe's DVIALW to run under vm.
The problem: Using Latex there seems to be too much space between the footnote
marker and the word being footnoted. It would appear that Latex is putting
'stretchy' glue between the word and the marker. In one case TeX actually broke
a line before the marker. I have tried tracing the footnote macro but I nearly
drowned in the output.
Does anybody have any idea what is going on?
Russell Fulton
Internet: ccc032u@aucc1.aukuni.ac.nz
Postal: Computer Centre
University of Auckland
Private Bag
Auckland, New Zealand
'Phone: +64 9 737-999 x 8955 ( GMT -12 )
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Subject: Problem with nested footnotes
Date: Fri, 06 May 88 10:04:07 -0700
From: kelem@aerospace.aero.org
A problem that comes up in our VLSI CAD documents is explaining some of the
acronyms. What I've tried in Latex is:
...the intermediate form IVAN%
\footnote{SVIF stands for Standard VHDL%
\footnote{VHDL stands for VHSIC%
\footnote{VHSIC stands for Very High Speed Integrated Circuits}
Hardware Description Language}
Intermediate Format} is ...
The resulting footnote looks like:
1 SVIF stands for Standard VHDL(2) Intermediate Format
4 another footnote
So the footnotes about VHDL and VHSIC are missing.
Is there a clean way to fix this? When I tried this in Scribe,
the result was pretty neat! (surprise!) It printed footnote 1 in a font size
a little smaller than the body font size. Then it printed footnote 2 in a
font size a little smaller than the footnote font size, and then footnote 3
was smaller than that font size---it reflected the nesting of the footnotes
in the font sizes used in the footnotes.
Steve Kelem
arpa: kelem@aerospace.aero.org
uucp: trwrb!aero!kelem
sdcrdcf!aero!kelem
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Date: Fri, 06 May 88 16:06:20 EDT
From: "Don N. Kleinmuntz" <DKLEIN%SLOAN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: BibTex questions: summary of response
Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about Bibtex. Here is
a summary of the results:
1. I asked about how to get a bibliography containing ALL the entries in
a Bibtex database (BIB file). This capability is available in version
0.99c of Bibtex (the most current version, available on directory
<tex.bibtex> of score.stanford.edu for FTPing).
2. I asked about the availability of Bibtex version 0.99c for the CMS operating
system. I have not been able to locate anyone who has a change file for
this version of Bibtex on CMS, and I do not know enough about how things
work (either with CMS or with WEB) to build one myself. (I also asked
about the availability of 0.99c for MS-DOS microcomputers, and got no
responses on this at all!) Short answer: it is not available (yet).
3. As an interim measure, I asked about the availability of an old version of
the APALIKE.BST file that would work with version 0.98i of Bibtex. Someone
was kind enough to send me an old version. I have also modified it a bit to
make it come somewhat closer to actual American Psych. Association style---
use of ampersands instead of the word 'and', and some other minor changes.
I will be glad to pass along copies, though I strongly recommend the APALIKE
files available on the Rochester style collection if you have access to
version 0.99c of Bibtex.
| Don Kleinmuntz |
| high tech: dklein@sloan.bitnet or dklein@sloan.mit.edu |
| medium tech: (617) 253-2430 |
| low tech: Sloan School of Management |
| Massachusetts Institute of Technology |
| 50 Memorial Drive, E52-568 |
| Cambridge, MA 02139 |
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