[comp.text] TeXhax Digest V88 #97

TeXhax@Score.Stanford.EDU (TeXhax Digest) (10/29/88)

TeXhax Digest   Friday, October 28, 1988   Volume 88 : Issue 97

Moderator: Malcolm Brown

Today's Topics:

                         NEC P6 driver wanted
                      Re:Page Make-up Challenge
                     (1) colour (2) 256-char TeX
               Re: BibTeX 0.99 for IBM PC (TeXhax # 92)
                   Re: Maple to Tex and a question
                       24-pin LQ driver needed
                           Spacing Question
               Re: TeXhax Digest V88 #95 (LaTeX notes)
                       METAFONT and PostScript
                      Re:  METAFONT & PostScript
                            makeindex bug
                     mode_def for Linotronic 300
                           Upside-down text
            Tex and Latex on the MAC II (Texhax 92 query)
              Maple to TeX conversions (TexHax 92 query)
            Use of METAFONT to design Chinese characters?

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 11:12:24 MEZ
From: ZZKNAUF%DHVRRZN1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: NEC P6 driver wanted

Is there a driver for the NEC P6 dot matrix printer that
uses the 360 x 360 dots per inch resolution of this printer
and runs on IBM PCs with 512 or 640 KB?
Any hints (PD or commercial) welcome.

Gerd-H. Knauf
RRZN Universitaet Hannover
Schlosswender Str. 5
D-3000 Hannover 1
Germany
ZZKNAUF@DHVRRZN1.BITNET

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 14:11:06 +0100
From: Joost Zalmstra <mcvax!nat.vu.nl!jjaz@uunet.UU.NET>
Subject: Re:Page Make-up Challenge

Maybe the following set of macros can contribute to the solution of
the problem posed by David Rogers in TeXhax #86. It implements a floating
insertion with the following properties:
 - Every insertion must be put in a \vbox. Customised macros can then
   be used to place the white space for the figure and the figure caption
   in this box.
 - The order in which these \vbox-es are inserted is maintained.
 - No more than two boxes are placed on one page: the first on the top
   and the second on the bottom of the page.

The proposed macro \figplace should create a \vbox with the correct layout
of the figure and then call \addfigure to put it in the insertionlist:

\def\figplace#1#2#3#4{setbox0=\vbox{%
% here call macros to place figure and caption
}
\addfigure0}

Note that the space separating the figure from the text should not
be included in the \vbox. The skipregister \figureskip is used for this
purpose.

The macros are written in plain TeX, in fact the output routine given
here is an extension of the plain output routine (TeX-book page 364).

The basic idea is that figures that won't fit on the current page
are kept on a list (the \box \figlist). This list is checked after
a \shipout and if not empty a maximum of two \vboxes is inserted
(using plains \topins) for the next page. As the insertions are \vboxes
it is easy to split the insertion and put one at the top and one at
the bottom of the page.

Two further refinements should be mentioned here.
1) If the figures on a page take so much room that less than a specified
amount of space (given in dimen register \minpagesize) is left for
the text, this text is shifted through to the next page.
2) By inserting a \vbox with height \vsize (created by \vbox to \vsize..)
a page insert is created. No extra \figureskip will be include in this case.

I have tested these macros with real input (16 pages with on the first
page the insertion of several figures) and it seems to work on the moment.
However, I'm not a TeX guru and I would expect that these macros can be
improved. One of the problems left is te fact that \addfigures must
be called in horizontal mode ( \vadjust won't work). I would therefore
apreciate comments, both on the macros as they stand and on how this
contributes to the Challenge.

Joost Zalmstra.

jjaz%nat.vu.nl@hearn.bitnet
\newbox\figlist
\newcount\figuresonpage  \figuresonpage=0
\newcount\figuresonlist  \figuresonlist=0
\newskip\figureskip      \figureskip=1.2 pc plus 1 pc
\newdimen\pagesize
\newdimen\minpagesize    \minpagesize=5 pc
\newdimen\figuresizeonpage

\def\addfigure#1{%	add figure in box #1 to the document
    \ifnum\figuresonpage>1	% allready two figures on this page
	\addtolist{#1}%		% so save for later
    \else
	\ifnum\figuresonlist>0	% figlist is not empty
	    \addtolist{#1}	% so save for later
	\else			% no figures left over, so try to fit this one
	    \dimen0=\ht#1
	    \ifdim\dimen0<\vsize% not a pagesize figure
	       \advance\dimen0 by \dp#1   % size of the box
	       \advance\dimen0 by \figureskip  % extra space below or above
	    \fi
	    \advance\dimen0 by \pagetotal
	    \ifdim\dimen0>\pagegoal  % no space on this page
		\addtolist{#1}	     % so save for later
	    \else 
		\advance\dimen0 by \figuresizeonpage
		\ifdim\dimen0>\dimen\topins % exceding maximum insertion size
		    \addtolist{#1}	      % so save for later
		\else
		    \figureinsert{#1}	      % insert the figure
		\fi
	    \fi
	\fi
    \fi
}

\def\addtolist#1{%	add box #1 to figlist
    \global\setbox\figlist=\vbox{%
	\nointerlineskip
	\box#1
	\unvbox\figlist}
    \global\advance\figuresonlist by 1
}

\def\figureinsert#1{%	insert figure on this page
    \ifdim\ht#1<\vsize
        \insert\topins{\vbox{%
	    \ifnum\figuresonpage=0
	        \unvbox#1\vskip\figureskip	% skip below the figure
	    \else
	        \vskip\figureskip\unvbox#1	% skip above the figure
	    \fi
	}}
    \else
        \pageinsert
	    \unvbox#1
	\endinsert
    \fi
    \global\advance\figuresonpage by 1
    \global\advance\figuresizeonpage by \ht#1
    \global\advance\figuresizeonpage by \dp#1
    \global\advance\figuresizeonpage by \figureskip
}
\def\checkfiglist{%	see if there is a figure in the list that will
		  % fit on the next page
    \ifnum\figuresonlist>0
        \global\setbox\figlist=\vbox{%
	    \unvbox\figlist
	    \setbox0=\lastbox
	    \global\advance\dimen0\ht0
	    \ifdim\ht0<\vsize
	        \global\advance\dimen0 by \dp0
	        \global\advance\dimen0 by \figureskip
	    \fi
	    \ifdim\dimen0>\vsize
	         \vbox{\box0}	% no room ; replace the figure
	    \else
	        \ifdim\dimen0>\dimen\topins
      		    \vbox{\box0}
  		\else
		        \global\advance\figuresonlist by -1
	        \fi
	    \fi
	    \global\setbox0=\box0
	}
    \else
	{\setbox1=\box0		% make box0 void
	\global\setbox0=\box0}
    \fi
}
% Borrowing the macros from plain TeX

\catcode`@=11
\output{\myoutput}
\def\myoutput{\shipout\vbox{\makeheadline\pagebody\makefootline}%
  \advancepageno
  \global\figuresonpage=0
  \dimen0=0pt
  \global\figuresizeonpage = 0pt
  \checkfiglist     % check if there is figure waiting and return it in box 0 
  \ifvoid0          % nothing left
  \else
      \figureinsert0% insert this figure
      \checkfiglist % check for a second figure
      \ifvoid0\else
          \figureinsert0
       \fi
  \fi
  \ifvoid255\else\unvbox255\penalty\outputpenalty\fi % unused page back on list
  \ifnum\outputpenalty>-\@MM \else\dosupereject\fi}

\def\pagecontents{%
    \ifnum\figuresonpage>0      % check for insertion of figures
	\unvbox\topins	% place the figure(s) on top
	\ifnum\figuresonpage=2
	    \setbox0=\lastbox   % remove the second figure
	\fi
	\setbox1=\lastbox
	\unvbox1
    \fi
% Check box 255
     \pagesize=\ht255
     \advance\pagesize by \dp255	   % determine size of box 255
     \ifdim\pagesize>\minpagesize
         \dimen@=\dp255 \unvbox255  % the real page contents
     \else
	\message{tekstsize = \the\ht255, \the\dp255}
	\ifdim\ht255=0pt            % box is empty
	\else
	   \vfil	           	   % to small so leave for next page
	\fi
     \fi
% 
    \ifnum\figuresonpage=2
	\box0		% the second figure
    \fi
    \ifvoid\footins\else % footnote info is present
      \vskip\skip\footins
      \footnoterule
      \unvbox\footins\fi
    \ifr@ggedbottom \kern-\dimen@ \vfil \fi}

\catcode`@=12	% at signs no longer letters

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Date:     Tue, 25 Oct 88 18:19:43 BST
From:     Dr R M Damerell (RHBNC) <damerell@NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK>
Subject:  (1) colour (2) 256-char TeX

1. I am thinking about the possibility of writing a driver for the HP
Paintjet, which prints many colours.  Please, is there any agreed way to
tell TEX
to insert a change-colour command into a DVI file? If so, what will the
syntax of the command be?

2. 
S. P. Manganaris
asked about extending TeX's alphabet from 128 to 256 characters.
Please may I draw your attention to a bug in the VMS change files. (Every VMS
change file I have seen contains this). Array  xord  is defined as
 
xord: array [char] of ascii-code ;
 
and therefore it has 256 elements, but only the first 128 of them get
initialised.

mark

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From: Z3000JD%AWITUW01.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Re: BibTeX 0.99 for IBM PC (TeXhax # 92)

I have implemented BibTeX version 0.99 for the PC with MS-Pascal 3.31.
I have a TANGLE for MS-Pascal 3.31 (if not ported on another host) and
one for BibTeX. But I cannot recommend this version of BibTeX because
  - it doesnot write a logfile
  - it can only handle up to 500 entries
  - MS.Pascal has great problems with memory during compilation and
    execution of BibTeX.
I'm looking too for a got BibTeX 0.99 for PC's (in C??)
   Johannes Demel
   Technical University Vienna
   Z3000jd@awituw01,bitnet

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 11:42:55 EDT
From: "Ricardo A. Baeza-Yates" <rabaeza%watdragon.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Subject: Re: Maple to Tex and a question

>TeXhax Digest   Tuesday, October 18, 1988   Volume 88 : Issue 92

====>                  Maple to TeX conversion...

>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Date:     14-OCT-1988 11:23:18 GMT
>From:     KNEIJ%VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
>To:       texhax@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
>Subject:  Maple to TeX conversion...

>Well, the Macsyma and SMP gangs have asked, so why shouldn't we Maple
>users get in on the act: does anyone have a routine for converting Maple
>files/output to TeX?

>Ivo Kneij
>Clarendon Laboratory,
>Oxford.

>kneij@uk.ac.ox.vax

A function that converts Maple results to Latex is part of the miscelaneous
library function of Maple 4.2 (last version distributed).

A question:

In the same Latex document I need left-justified, right-justified and
centered \begin{equation},\[, begin{eqnarray}, etc (any equation
environment). All what I tried failed.
Any ideas?


rabaeza@watmum.waterloo.{edu,cdn}  519-885-1211 x3497  Ricardo Baeza-Yates
rabaeza@watmum.uwaterloo.ca                            CS Dept., U. Waterloo 
uunet!watmath!watmum!rabaeza                           Waterloo, Ont. N2L3G1

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Date:       Tue, 25 Oct 88 13:32:08 CDT
From:       Pat Lestrade <LESTRADE%MSSTATE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject:    24-pin LQ driver needed

I am looking for a driver for my new epson LQ-500 (24-pin) dot matrix.
The normal 9-pin driver works but I am hoping to get stupendous
results from something more specific to the LQ.
Surely someone has done this by now......
I will be happy to echo back to texhax a summary of any
replies that I receive.

Thanks,
Pat Lestrade   (lestrade@msstate.bitnet)
Mississippi, not just a tourist trap...

QUIT

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88  11:12:44 CDT
From: Alan Josephson <naj@tilde.csc.ti.com>
Subject: Spacing Question

Please forgive me if this has been beaten into the ground before.

I'm having problems with double/single spacing within LaTeX
documents in the context of \begin{array}.
I'm using an "inherited" spacing.sty which sets up doublespace/
singlespace environments.  While most of my text is
doublespaced, occasionally I have displayed text that is
singlespaced, eg:


\begin{doublespace}
...
\begin{singlespace}
\[
\begin{array}{rcl}
f(a,b) & \arr & \TRUE \\
f(b,c) & \arr & \TRUE \\
g(b,c) & \arr & \TRUE \\
g(b,d) & \arr & \TRUE \\
\TRUE \wedge X & \arr & X
\end{array}
\]
\end{singlespace}
...
\end{doublespace}


The paragraph of text preceding this block is affected and comes
out singlespaced as does the text following it (intermittently).
Not being a (La)TeX hacker, I'd appreciate a quick fix to
ensure that this doesn't happen or a more reliable method for
handling spacing issues.

Please mail any suggestions to me directly as I do not subscribe
to this newsgroup.

Thanks.

Alan Josephson	       USENET: {ctvax,im4u,texsun,rice}!ti-csl!naj
PO 655474 M/S 238      ARPA:   Naj%TI-CSL@CSNet-Relay
Texas Instruments Inc. CSNET:  Naj@Ti-CSL
Dallas, Texas 75265    VOICE:  (214) 995-0371

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 16:00:11 PDT
From: lamport@src.dec.com (Leslie Lamport)
Subject: Re: TeXhax Digest V88 #95 (LaTeX notes)

In response to Adrian F. Clark's query: \the\fam will produce a number
that identifies the font style.  A modearte amount of TeX hacking will
then suffice to define commands \savestyle and \setstyle so that
"\it\savestyle\small\setstyle" is equivalent to "\small\it".

Leslie Lamport

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 19:48:40 edt
From: smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu (Daniel Smith)
Subject: METAFONT and PostScript

I've had quite a few comments since I posted this article on  USENET.
Someone suggested that I post in on TeXhax too.  I apologize to all
of you who have already read this in comp.text, comp.fonts, or 
comp.postscipt....

As I was working on installing a new DVI driver to handle resident
PostScript font, I began to think about the relationship between
METAFONT and PostScript.  It occured to me that the two do about the 
same thing, its just that they do it at different times.  METAFONT
translates source code describing fonts into bit maps, and so
does PostScript.  The difference is that PostScript does it when the
document is printed, and METAFONT does it when the font itself is
created.  

I began to wonder if anyone has tried to make METAFONT spit out
PostScipt outline fonts?  Such a scheme would seem to combine the best
of both worlds.  METAFONT is a real programming language, written by
a computer scientist.  This makes is "easy" to describe
fonts accurately and formally.  PostScript on the otherhand
is not very easy to read.  While it is possible to make sense out
of PostScript code, it is not as good as METAFONT.  

Here is a list of pros and cons for such a scheme:

METAFONT doing just what it does now:
   * The fonts produced will work on just about ANY printer.  One
     does not need a PostScript printer to use TeX/METAFONT.
   * However, these fonts take up A LOT of disk space, espically
     when compared to PostScript fonts.  For example, a PostScript
     outline for for say Times-Roman is basically one file.  That is
     one file for ALL sizes of Times-Roman, for ALL device resolutions.
     Since the PostScript software in each printer has "lots of smarts"
     this method works.
   * DVI drivers are non-trivial pieces of software.  Each driver must
     deal with the bitmaps in the GF/PK/PXL files and convert those
     to a scheme for the current printer.

METAFONT producing PostScript
   * A LARGE savings in disk space can be realized, because very few
     files are required for a font.
   * Of course, the output is only of use to those who have PostScript
     printers.
   * PostScript is fast becoming a standard for desktop-publishing.
   * Writing a DVI driver is quite simple.  One no longer needs to
     deal with bitmaps of fonts.  The DVI file and TFM files for the
     fonts are all that are needed.  In some cases, the TFM may not
     even be necessary.
   * TeX fonts (Computer Modern) behave just like any other
     PostScript font.

J. Daniel Smith                           smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University

"An average English word is four letters and a half.  By hard, honest
labor I've dug all the large words out of my vocabulary and shaved it 
down till the average is three and a half..."
      Mark Twain

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 18:48:51 EDT
From: Michael DeCorte <mrd@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>
Subject: Re:  METAFONT & PostScript

smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu (Daniel Smith) writes:

>METAFONT translates source code describing fonts into bit maps, and so
>does PostScript.  The difference is that PostScript does it when the
>document is printed, and METAFONT does it when the font itself is
>created.  I began to wonder if anyone has tried to make METAFONT spit
>out PostScript outline fonts?

[lots of other useful observations]

I have been thinking of how to do this for quite some time now.  There
are a few things that have to be first examined: (I am calling these
things .psf for PostScript fonts)

1) As I understand it, under postscript, when you scale a font you are
doing the equivalent of magstep under TeX.  This is unacceptable for
TeX.  Therefore it won't be possible to have cmr.psf but there is
nothing to stop you from having cmr10.psf.  There are several
advantages to this: 

a) it is portable between different PS printers of different
resolutions

b) it should be portable between write-white and write-black engines

c) the .psf file may be smaller than the cmr10.pk but I am only
guessing

d) the cmr10.psf file will DEFINITELY be smaller than the cmr10.pk @
magstep 0,0.5,2..5. (I really like this)

e) it may be faster to download as you don't have to download multiple
mag of the same font and it may even be possible to make the cmr10.psf
very small by having a set of ps libraries that you download before
any fonts

2) if we ever get a PostScript previewer on our Sun, I won't have to
have fonts at every size and dots/inch know to mankind

3) this could be generalized for vector output devices in general.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to use that 4105 to preview?  I suppose
you could get plotters going also.

4) internal PostScript fonts will be easier to handle I assume, as
they will be handled the same as external fonts.

5) it will be necessary to use the .tfm files or duplicate them in the
.psf file. I think it is better to just use the .tfm file

6) this is probably portable but... Donald Knuth spent a lot of time
figuring out how to make a { look like a }.  Did Adobe?  Rounding
leads havoc on low res fonts.

7) we will have to redo LaTeX's definition of fonts.  With all of
these fonts that we now have available, it will be necessary to have a
font defined in three parts: family, style, size.  

Eg. right now we have Computer Modern, Italic, 12.  We will have
Helvetica, Bold, 10.  This means that you would to choose a font you
would do something like \rm\it\large or \hv\bf\normalsize.  If you
only want to change the style of the font from bold to italic but
nothing else you would only do \it. Likewise, to change the family
but not the size or style you would only do \rm.  One minor problem
is that \rm stands for Computer Modern not Roman. 

9) If the .psf fonts are defined correctly, it will be possible to
use fonts from TeX in non TeX stuff.

--

Michael DeCorte // (315)268-2292 // P.O. Box 652, Potsdam, NY 13676
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 88 20:28:02 EDT
From: zaccone - 1393 <zaccone%rigel.bucknell.edu@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: makeindex bug

I have found what appears to be a bug in makeindex.  Suppose I would
like the string "le%en" to appear in the index, and have it
alphabetized as leen.  I get the following entry in my .idx file:

\indexentry{leen@le%en}{8}

The %e is interpreted as a C format operator as can be seen from the
.ind file produced by makeindex:

\begin{theindex}

  \item le0.000000e+00n, 8

\end{theindex}

Doubling up on the percent sign makes the problem go away.  The
following line

\indexentry{leen@le%%en}{8}

produces

\begin{theindex}

  \item le%en, 8

\end{theindex}

If it's not a bug, it should at least be documented.

Rick Zaccone
zaccone@bknlvms.bitnet
zaccone@rigel.bucknell.edu

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From:     Clark Adrian <alien%ESE.ESSEX.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Date:     Wed, 26 Oct 88 10:56:42 GMT
Subject:  mode_def for Linotronic 300

I need to generate a couple of fonts for a Linotronic 300 typesetter
(1270dpi).  Has anyone figured out a sensible mode_def for it?
I've been recommended to use the same values for fillin, etc, as for a
DEC LN03 laser printer, but the output I get is much too black.

   Adrian F. Clark
   JANET:  alien@uk.ac.essex.ese
   ARPA:   alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
   BITNET: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@ac.uk
   Smail:  Dept. of Electronic Systems Engineering, Essex University,
           Wivenhoe Park, Colchester, Essex C04 3SQ, U. K.
   Phone:  (+44) 206-872432 (direct)

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From:     Clark Adrian <alien%ESE.ESSEX.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Date:     Wed, 26 Oct 88 10:50:32 GMT
Subject:  Upside-down text

I have a colleague who wants to generate some upside-down text.  Only
one font is needed, say cmudr10 (computer modern upside-down roman,
10pt :->).  Has any reader attempted to do this using Metafont?  (I'd
like the resulting font to have the effective meanings of height and
depth interchanged.)  Glancing through the Metafontbook, it doesn't
look to hard...but I'm no MF expert.

   Adrian F. Clark
   JANET:  alien@uk.ac.essex.ese
   ARPA:   alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
   BITNET: alien%uk.ac.essex.ese@ac.uk
   Smail:  Dept. of Electronic Systems Engineering, Essex University,
           Wivenhoe Park, Colchester, Essex C04 3SQ, U. K.
   Phone:  (+44) 206-872432 (direct)

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Date:     Wed, 26 Oct 88 09:18 EST
From:     <MCGUINES%FORDMURH.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject:  Tex and Latex on the MAC II (Texhax 92 query)

I have been running TeXTures (1.01) on a MAC II with 1 meg of Ram, attached
to an Apple LaserWriter IINT for about 6 weeks. My previous TeX experience
was using it on a VAX for about 2 years. In general, I am extremely happy
with both Plain TeX and LaTeX. The previewer is fast, and gives
several choices for sizes to preview at. There is an easy to use
facility to include pictures (in MacPaint format), although you will have
to write a macro to do things like center automatically etc.
A few quibbles:
   1) The manuals are not very clear on the best way to organise the
      font, format and style files for LaTeX. I had to call Blue Sky Research
      (the current distributors) for help. They were responsive and helpful.
   2) Blue Sky does not supply BibTeX, although I personally have never
      needed it.
   3) Some TeX beginners here have managed to obtain various MAC system
      errors, and crash the machine by writing badly structured,
      although (barely) syntactically correct code. The same code doesn't
      even cause the VAX TeX to hiccup. This is (I think) a problem
      caused by lack of virtual memory etc., but can be avoided by being
      careful in your TeX coding.

Ois\'{\i}n McGuinness
Mathematics Department
Fordham University
Bronx NY 10458                           mcguiness@fordmurh.bitnet
(212)-579-2355                           (please note spelling!)

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Date:     Wed, 26 Oct 88 09:27 EST
From:     <MCGUINES%FORDMURH.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject:  Maple to TeX conversions (TexHax 92 query)

The version 4.2 distribution of Maple contains a function ``latex()'',
that converts a Maple expression to Latex form. It appears to
work well with simple expressions, and I haven't tried it
with more complex expressions. It is overly cautious in some
respects, and will give you many more pairs '{' and '}' than
are actually needed. Also you have to supply the $...$ or \[..\]
to surround the output with.

A warning: latex() is adapted from the similar Maple function
eqn(), and contains some seemingly unreachable
code that has some troff constructs left in. (If you
already have Maple 4.2, look for the lines containing ``size 13''
in the source of latex() to see what they mean. I sent a note
to Gaston Gonnet at Waterloo about this back in May, so the
Maple people should know about this problem already.)

Ois\'{\i}n McGuinness
Mathematics Department
Fordham University
Bronx NY 10458                       mcguiness@fordmurh.bitnet
(212)-579-2355                       (note the spelling!)

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 88 13:54 GMT
From: GTEO%cs.tcd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Use of METAFONT to design Chinese characters?

  These questions are reserved for anyone who is interested in font
design, METAFONT, PostScript, hand on experience with MF or PS, and
anyone just curious, please read on.

  METAFONT design philosophy is to describe characters's shapes to
computers using a number of font parameters. The same set of parameters
should be able to define the whole family of fonts. An example is the
Computer Modern, a translation of Monotype Modern 8A into METAFONT code.
It proved very effective by seeing the quality of CM fonts output on
printers.

  However, I have a few questions here when considering use of METAFONT to
design Chinese character based on the same design concepts that METAFONT
adopted for phonetic languages where the size of the alphabet is small and
comparative simple. The total number of Chinese characters to date are over
50000, even though only some 8000 are in common usage.

Q1. What is the maximun number of fonts parameters that anyone has used
    to design any fonts?

Q2. What is the optimun number of fonts parameters before the font designer
    is overloaded? (If anyone has such an experience)

  Any suggestions or comments or experiences shared are most appriciated.
  Thanks.

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