[comp.text] PS/2 or Mac for TeX?

gsg0384@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (01/12/89)

Hi,

I am new to TeX.  We have PS/2-50 and MacII in the lab.  We already 
have PCTeX (site-licensed) and the previewer.

Which company's TeX for Mac is the best?

How much better is working on a Mac than on a PS/2 ?  Is that so much better
that I should tell my boss to buy the software for Mac?

In other words, can I see the text being processed or just-processed
while I am typing on a Mac?  I can't do that on PS/2.

Thanks for info.

                 Hugh      gsg0384@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) (01/15/89)

In article <113600001@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> gsg0384@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am new to TeX.  We have PS/2-50 and MacII in the lab.  We already 
>have PCTeX (site-licensed) and the previewer.
>
>Which company's TeX for Mac is the best?

There is TexTures and MacTex, and both have there advantages and disadvan-
tages. You may want to look them over.

>How much better is working on a Mac than on a PS/2 ?  Is that so much better
>that I should tell my boss to buy the software for Mac?

The only reason for getting the software for Mac is that you can use Tex
on the PS/2 and the Mac at the same time.

>In other words, can I see the text being processed or just-processed
>while I am typing on a Mac?  I can't do that on PS/2.

That would be nice. However, none of the current implementations do this.
In fact, none of the implementations do anything exciting compared to the
implementations for messy dog.
If you want something that comes close you should consider ArborTex, which
runs on Suns, but maybe also on other hardware by now (?)

Paul.
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cwitty@csli.Stanford.EDU (Carl Witty) (01/15/89)

In article <8755@alice.UUCP>, debra@alice (Paul De Bra) writes:
>In article <113600001@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> gsg0384@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
>>Hi,
...
>>In other words, can I see the text being processed or just-processed
>>while I am typing on a Mac?  I can't do that on PS/2.
>
>That would be nice. However, none of the current implementations do this.
>In fact, none of the implementations do anything exciting compared to the
>implementations for messy dog.
>If you want something that comes close you should consider ArborTex, which
>runs on Suns, but maybe also on other hardware by now (?)

The best TeX environment I've seen is by Tom Rokicki, of Radical Eye
Software, for the Amiga.  I've seen him demonstrate it, and it is
truly amazing.  He's got it set it up so that a simple key sequence in
his editor runs TeX on the file and displays the output with a dvi
previewer.  The previewer shows each page as TeX finishes processing
it.  Since the Amiga is multitasking, he can continue editing while
TeX is running.

He also sells Metafont, and you can set it up so that whenever your
file uses a font that you don't have the .pk file for, it calls
Metafont and generates that font.  Very slick.

Tom can be contacted at rokicki@score.Stanford.EDU.

Carl Witty
cwitty@csli.Stanford.EDU

Disclaimer:  I have no relationship with Tom Rokicki or Radical Eye
Software.
-- 
Carl Witty
cwitty@csli.stanford.edu

cje@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) (01/18/89)

In article <8755@alice.UUCP> debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) writes:

> >In other words, can I see the text being processed or just-processed
> >while I am typing on a Mac?  I can't do that on PS/2.
> 
> That would be nice. However, none of the current implementations do this.

Beg pardon?  I interpreted the original query to be "Can I preview my
TeX output on the screen instead of printing it?", which is certainly
possible in both Mac and IBM implementations.

If the original querant actually meant "Can I type something and have it
be typeset automatically on the screen?  I don't want to see the code
involved", then you're right, but I don't know of any TeX implementation that
can do this. 
-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst
UUCP: {ames, cbosgd, harvard, moss, seismo}!rutgers!elbereth.rutgers.edu!cje
ARPA: JAROCHAERNST@CANCER.RUTGERS.EDU

UH2@PSUVM.BITNET (Lee Sailer) (01/18/89)

In article <Jan.17.15.37.15.1989.25329@elbereth.rutgers.edu>, cje@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) says:
>
>In article <8755@alice.UUCP> debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) writes:
>If the original querant actually meant "Can I type something and have it
>be typeset automatically on the screen?  I don't want to see the code
>involved", then you're right, but I don't know of any TeX implementation that
>can do this.
>--

Amiga TeX can do a close approximation of this, if you have 1.5MB or more.
You can multi-task your editor, TeX, and the Previewer.  And output
from TeX can be sent to the Previewer as it comes out of TeX.  There are
some bells-and-whistles that make it feasible to look at the same
few paragraphs over and over again til you get them right, and so on.

It is fairly close to a wysiwyg TeX envirnment.

lee

mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (01/18/89)

> >In other words, can I see the text being processed or just-processed
> >while I am typing on a Mac?  I can't do that on PS/2.
> 
> That would be nice. However, none of the current implementations do this.

"Being processed" is impossible on either a PC or MAC, without 
rewriting TeX itself. (It should be possible on a high class
Unix workstation.)  But "Just processed" is certainly possible on
a 386 PC. I do it often. Use Microsoft Windows 386. Put your
favorite text editor in one window, TeX itself in another, and
my screen previewer dvivga in a third. Works fine. You can, if you
wish, print your previous try in a fourth window. All at once.