TeXhax@cs.washington.edu (TeXhax Digest) (06/29/89)
TeXhax Digest Monday, June 5, 1989 Volume 89 : Issue 57
Moderators: Tiina Modisett and Pierre MacKay
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Today's Topics:
***Announcement: Upcoming TUGboat***
Pronunciation
RE: What do you mean "french" spacing?
Possible indentation-bug ??
Re: Possible LaTeX Bug
\section headers that span two columns
MUSIC-TEX from DHDURZ1.BITNET - something missing?
Printing Music with TeX: Summary
Assistance with Tex problem requested
CIRCLE fonts, and MANFNT
Re: 10pt extension font
Re: Problem with script...
Re: Problem with Metafont
Bitnet and TeXHaXen
How can I cut the text at the right margin in a tabbing ?
Re: troff to TeX conversion
Font files for Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible)
Needed: Information concerning 24 pin drivers
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 14:44:38 PLT
From: Dean Guenther <GUENTHER%WSUVM1.BITNET@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Announcement: Upcoming TUGboat
Keywords: general
In an effort to let the \TeX\ community know what public domain \TeX\
resources are available, and how to get them, a regular column will begin
in an upcoming issue of TUGboat which will describe how you can
obtain a public domain copy of \TeX\ for your computer. If you have, or
are aware of public domain copies of \TeX\ that can be requested, FTP'd,
or in some other manner be obtained, please send a note to:
{\obeylines
Dean Guenther
WSUCSC
Pullman, WA. 99164-1220
USA
Bitnet: GUENTHER@WSUVM1
Internet: guenther@wsuvm1.wsu.edu
}
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Date: Wed, 31 May 89 10:29 BST
From: Jan-Ameij%UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU:AMEIJ@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK,
Engineer Extraordinaire <AMEIJ%VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Pronunciation
Keywords: general
Hello chums!
Here's a problem that nobody seems to know a definitive answer to here, so I
thought I would toss it out to the worldwide community. To wit,
How should one pronounce TeX?
The T and e I can deal with, but the problems seem to be with the X. Is it
really an X, pronounced as in expert, eczema etc or is it as some claim really
a $\chi$, pronounced as in loch (for Scots), lough (for the Irish) or Chiemsee?
Or even something completely different?
At the moment both sides sneer at the other, despising their ignorance, so I
would appreciate a definite international standard before deciding at whom to
sneer myself.
Jan Ameij,
Oxford University,
Department of Applied Metaphysics
ameij@uk.ac.oxford.vax
(God knows what from outside the UK,
but then if He had meant networks to
be sensible He would not have given
us Valium. Or IBM.)
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Date: Sun, 28 May 89 02:47 GMT
From: Peter Flynn UCC <CBTS8001%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: RE: What do you mean "french" spacing?
Keywords: typesetting, spacing, periods
Victor Eikhout asks (#40) about the extra space after a full point in
European (British?) and American Typography. Hmmm. When I started
composition (by hand, at case, using metal types---I guess this dates me :-)
I was told only use a normal (mid) space between sentences, but that if
the line was loose, then between sentences was as desirable a place to add
extra space as between two long words. Of course, when doing hand
justification, you use the look of the previous few lines by eye to avoid
rivers, but I was also told that it was bad practice to add too much
space after a full point, as the white space above the point was sufficient
to let the eye recognise it as a more significant break than an ordinary
inter-word gap. Of course this is more noticeable with type like CMR which
has a relatively large x-height. In Times or some of the modern news faces
with very small ascenders, I would guess at using a thick space by default.
A lot depends on house style, too, as Victor and Pierre rightly note. I
know one English office where they use a quad between sentences in anything
larger than 14pt type!
...Peter Flynn
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Date: Mon, 29 May 89 10:58:02 +0200
From: Koen Mols <FHAAA17%BLEKUL11.BITNET@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Possible indentation-bug ??
Keywords: LaTeX, indentation
How can one avoid paragraph indentation after the display-math environment,
other than by using the noindent command?
P.S. We believe there may be a bug in LaTeX because normal text after a
vdisplaymath environment, without a blanco line in between, still causes
an indented new paragraph. (with the latest LaTeX-version, obtained
through Arbor Text).
mail address: FHAAA17 at BLEKUL11.BITNET
Koen Mols, Marc De Graef, Department of Metallurgy and Materials Engineering,
University of Leuven, de Croylaan 2, B-3030 Heverlee (Belgium).
Organization: K.U.Leuven (Belgium) University Computing Centre
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 89 17:18:01 EDT
From: Denys Duchier <duchier-denys@YALE.ARPA>
Subject: Re: Possible LaTeX Bug
Keywords: LaTeX, bug
In reply to Jon Warbrick:
The fix is to insert \leavevmode as shown below:
\begin{description}
\item[This one works]
and its text is printed OK.
\item[But this doesn't]\leavevmode
\begin{center}
because the label and the text get centered!
\end{center}
\end{description}
Denys
Organization: Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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Date: Sat, 27 May 89 21:17:04 CDT
From: Don Hosek <U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: \section headers that span two columns
Keywords: \section header, LaTeX
The correct way to have a section header span two columns would be to
have the section header use the optional argument of \twocolumn
to span the page. A kludgy solution would be:
\twocolumn[\begin{minipage}{\textwidth}
\section{This is the section title which spans two columns but is
otherwise is normal}
\end{minipage}]
A correct solution would incorporate all necessary commands into the
\section command itself.
dh
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Date: 30-May-89 at 22:43 MEZ
From: Eckart Meyer <I7100501%DBSTU1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: MUSIC-TEX from DHDURZ1.BITNET - something missing?
Keywords: TeX, music
I just got the MTEX Stuff from the file server at DHDURZ1.BITNET (Germany).
Works fine, but the demo file shows that a more comfortable macro package
(or pre-processor) must exist.
Does anybody know ?
Eckart
Eckart Meyer Address: Schleinitzstr. 23
Inst. f. Nachrichtentechnik 3300 Braunschweig
Technical University of Braunschweig West Germany
Phone: +49 531 391 2454
BITNET: I7100501@DBSTU1
Internet: I7100501%DBSTU1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Date: Fri, 26 May 89 14:26:24 pdt
From: merrell@wallaby.mrc.uidaho.edu
Subject: Printing Music with TeX: Summary
Keywords: TeX, music
I have received numerous responses from my original question about printing
music with TeX. Most of them looking for the same thing. However, I did
receive some code from Fritz Zaucker (F48%DHDURZ1.BITNET). I have not yet
had a chance to check it out, but will gladly forward it to anyone who
wants it. The code is in German, but that shouldn't pose any problem to
musicians since we're supposed to know at least German, Italian, French,
Spanish, Latin, and perhaps even a few slavic languages. ;-)
Those who have already sent me messages requesting information will receive
the code shortly.
Thanks for all the responses!
Randy Merrell
Microelectronics Research Center "Rejoice in the Lord always;
College of Engineering again I say, rejoice!"
University of Idaho -- Phil. 4:4
Moscow, ID 83843
UUCP: ucdavis!egg-id!ui3!rmerrell
BITNET: rmerrell@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu
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Date: Wed, 31 May 89 16:15:06 ADT
From: buckley@cs.dal.ca
Subject: Assistance with Tex problem requested
Keywords: TeX, parsing
I am looking for help with the following TeX problem.
It is a bit different from normal typesetting. In effect,
I want TeX to parse expressions.
To illustrate, suppose I have TeX source for some mathematics:
$ a + 3\* b \* (4+ 5\*\sin \pi)$ %\* is to make mult explicit
What I would like is to be able to define a macro, say \Expr,
so that
\Expr{ $ a + 3\* b \* (4+ 5\*\sin \pi)$}
would produce the output (in \tt font, say)
a + (3*b*(4+5*sin(pi)))
I have experimented with macros like \def\Expr#1+#2{\tt #1 + #2}
and tried to recursively define an expression in terms of factors,
etc. I have had some success, but one problem is that an expression
may be the sum of two factors, or may be just one factor (i.e. a
primary). The difficulty is that the macro expansion fails if the
"+" is missing.
Thanks for any ideas. I will be glad to respond to anyone else
wishing to know the answer.
Prof. Bert Buckley
buckley@ac.dal.ca
buckley@cs.dal.ca
It you do not get a reply, please try one of the old form addresses:
BITNET (NetNorth,Earn): buckley@dalac.bitnet
Internet (CSNET, ARPA, EDU): buckley%dalcs@uunet.uu.net
UUCP: ...!uunet!dalcs!buckley
or ...!utai!dalcs!buckley
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 14:29:46 BST
From: Chris Thompson <CET1%phoenix.cambridge.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
Subject: CIRCLE fonts, and MANFNT
Keywords: CIRCLE fonts,MANFNT
Further to my question about the variability of the TFM files for
the LaTeX CIRCLE fonts (TeXhax digest 1989.09), I was interested to
find on a recently received `ASCII generic' tape from Stanford a
version of CIRCLE.MF that has the offending line commented out as
follows:
% thickness#:=thickness/hppp; % and let thickness# round to right value
% NO, I deleted this BAD line! --- DEK, 9 Jul 87
Note the date. (The files on the tape are purportedly versions current
on 21 Mar 1988---I will have more to say about that in another posting.)
The .TFM files for the circle fonts on the tape are not, however, made
with this adjusted .MF file, but show the variability with resolution
that I previously described.
I was also intrigued to find a MANFNT.MF file on the tape, with
a correctly corresponding MANFNT.TFM (but quite different from the
old MANFNT.TFM). MANFNT has always been a nuisance, because if its
appearance in the `preloaded fonts' list in PLAIN.TEX. It turns out
that this new MANFNT.MF is the same as a file called MANUAL.MF in
1986. Is the change of name official? Should we throw away our old
(useless) MANFNT.TFM files?
Chris Thompson
JANET: cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
ARPA: cet1%phx.cam.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 21:47:59 CDT
From: Don Hosek <U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: 10pt extension font
Keywords: LaTeX, fonts
I have mentioned the problem of the "bad" cmex choices in lfonts to
Leslie Lamport previously and he responded that he did things the way
he did because the magnified fonts weren't available when he originally
wrote LaTeX (or some similar explanation). Personally I think that it's
about time that the problem has been dealt with. The extra sizes should
be defined for everything from 5pt to 25pt in LaTeX as well as all the
sizes of SliTeX. For sizes under 10pt either cmex10 or cmex9 should be
used. How about it Leslie? If you want, I'll even do it myself.
dh
Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU
3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET
Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET
Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu
ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY
Never give a gun to ducks
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Date: Sat, 27 May 89 15:51:44 CDT
From: Don Hosek <U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Problem with script...
Keywords: MFtool, fonts
I wrote an implementation of MFtool by John Sauter (see TUGboat 8#2 I
think) for CMS and currently work is under way to port my Rexx code
into portable C. One of the nice things about MFtool is that it makes
dealing with problems like that with CMbase and LaTeX fonts fairly
simple. Here is an abbreviated portion of the local MFtool script
for generating our fonts:
First fonts which use only plain.bas:
vBASE: plain
line10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2)
linew10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2)
Several lines omitted.
BASE: cmbase
cmbx10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 5 6 7 8)
cmbx5 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 5 6 7 8).
Further details will be released (through TUGboat and TeXMaG) when the
vnew code (2.0) is ready for release.
dh
Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU
3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET
Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET
Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu
ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY
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Date: Sat, 27 May 89 15:59:00 CDT
From: Don Hosek <U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Problem with Metafont
Keywords: METAFONT, mode_def
As Pierre pointed out, the problem with the extension coming out wrong
was due to a missing mode_def. The best way to deal with the problem is
to generate a special plain.bas with the following command:
INIMF plain input localmodes dump
where localmodes is the name of a file on your system which contains
the mode_def's used locally on your system (the file waits.mf is
a good starting point).
then, additional base files can be created in the normal fashion, e.g.,
INIMF &plain cmbase dump
to create cmbase.bas
vAs for the incorrect file name, of MFPUT, try typing the command as
MF \mode=epson; input logo10
(for the MF logo font) or
MF &cmbase \mode=epson; input cmr10
for cmr10.
dh
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Date: Sun, 28 May 89 02:37 GMT
From: Peter Flynn UCC <CBTS8001%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Bitnet and TeXHaXen
Keywords: texhax, lists, bitnet
Congratulations to whoever re-opened channels of communication. In the
last week I have had a flood of back issues of TeXHaXen, bringing me up
to date at last. As I understand it there were two problems, a logical
one in addressing BITNET correctly from washington.edu, and a physical
one in that some BITNET machines en route from TAMVM1 to Europe were
so snowed under they lost their spool space and coughed blood for a few
weeks. Anyway, Pierre, Tiina and all involved, take a bow and my thanks.
...Peter Flynn
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Date: Tue, 30 May 89 18:19:36 MET DST
From: tombre@loria.crin.fr (Karl Tombre)
Subject: How can I cut the text at the right margin in a tabbing ?
Keywords: bibliography, tabbing
We want to output a cross reference list of keywords and the related
entries from a bibliography file.
For that a program has been written which starts from the bib file and
outputs the following :
<keyword> [TAB] <access key> [TAB] Title
As the title may be too long, we want to cut it off when we come to the
right margin. i.e.
computer vision Smith85a The use of high-level knowledge in ster
This is put inside a tabbing environment. We tried to use boxes but
without success.
Does anybody have an idea on an easy way to do that ?
Thanks in advance,
Karl Tombre @ CRIN / INRIA Lorraine
EMAIL : tombre@loria.crin.fr - POST : BP 239, 54506 VANDOEUVRE CEDEX, France
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Date: Wed, 31 May 89 10:32:00 PDT
From: sdsu!baase@ucsd.edu (Sara Baase)
Subject: Re: troff to TeX conversion
Keywords: troff, TeX
Does anyone have a program to convert a file with troff formatting
commands to the appropriate TeX commands? (I wouldn't expect a perfect
job, but enough to save some time.)
I need to convert about 12-15 pages in the next week or two. Thanks
for any help or advice.
Sara Baase
sdsu!baase@ucsd.edu
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 89 13:57 GMT
From: Peter Flynn UCC <CBTS8001%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Font files for Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible)
Keywords: Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible), font files
I just tested the laptop Tosh 301 printer, battery-powered 24-pin job.
Veyr nice, a bit klunky, but OK with the PC-TeX DVITOS and DVIELQ (PCDOT)
driver using 180-dot font files (it does both Tosh 13xx and Epson LQ emulation)
*very* small (12" wide, 5.5" deep, 3" high) and I am suitably impressed.
Only problem is, the TeX output is patchy, because the 180-dot fonts were
intended for a fabric-ribbon machine, so altho the dot pitch is right, the
301 is printing smaller dots (probably more accurate dots?) wherease a fabric
ribbon will spludge more ink round each dot (the 301 is thermal). I guesst
this means a new set of fonts, still 180-dot, but with blacker set higher
(forgive the ignoarnce, I dont do metafont). Can someone suggest which
params to tweak to get a better result? Is it in fact possible? given that
all mf could do is print more dots, not change the dot size.
...Peter
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 18:43:28 EDT
From: Mark McKenna <ST402119%BROWNVM.BITNET@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Needed: Information concerning 24 pin drivers
Keywords: dviware
Late last fall, there was a great deal of interest in drivers for 24
pin pri nters...for NEC and Epson printers However, I did not see any
replies on
TeXhax regarding where to obtain these drivers and the necessary fonts. Could
anyone send me (or post) this information? thanks.. (Note: because of the
BITNET mailing problems, any update on TeXhax may have escaped my attention)
Thanks for any assistance
Mark McKenna
st402119@brownvm
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