[comp.unix.wizards] Ultrix & uucp

authorplaceholder@mcorp.UUCP (02/28/87)

I'm having problems polling our neighbor.  I have no problems sending mail
and other files to them, but I cannot call and receive the files that I know
are sitting on their machine.  I have to wait until they poll me.

I'm on a Vax 11/750 running Ultrix 1.2.
My node is "mcorp".

I'm trying to call "osu-eddie" which is running 4.? BSD.

Now, I know that their name is more than 7 characters long, but "osu-eddie"
tells me that their other neighbors aren't having a problem.

Is the problem on my end or their's?  Are they any "magic" files which I need
to look at?

Philip Gross
Columbus, Ohio 43229
(614) 895 - 0738

avolio@decuac.UUCP (03/02/87)

In article <32200002@mcorp>, phil@mcorp.UUCP writes:
> 
> 
> I'm having problems polling our neighbor.  I have no problems sending mail
> and other files to them, but I cannot call and receive the files that I know
> are sitting on their machine.  I have to wait until they poll me.

The problem sounds like it is on their side, but....

When seeking answers to problems such as these one should always send:

1. A sample entryt from the L.sys file (with the LOGIN and PASSWORD
masked).  (Wouldn't be helpful in this case, probably.)

2. The entry from the USERFILE

3. The dialog from /usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE (a sample run of uucico
with debugging turned on -- EG, /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -ssystemname -x6
-- would be useful too).

Fred.

dave@wor-mein.UUCP (03/02/87)

A problem that we had was that the uucpsetup script assigned a user ID for 
the machine you were polling ( Uosu-eddie ) that was not unique.  It used the
same ID as for the uucp login.  Check your passwd file and make sure that
your user ID is unique.

					Dave Axness
					Quantum Medical Systems
					...uw-beaver!tikal!wor-mein!dave

avolio@decuac.UUCP (03/03/87)

In article <1094@wor-mein.UUCP>, dave@wor-mein.UUCP (Dave Axness) writes:
> A problem that we had was that the uucpsetup script assigned a user ID for 
> the machine you were polling ( Uosu-eddie ) that was not unique.  It used the
> same ID as for the uucp login.  Check your passwd file and make sure that
> your user ID is unique.

That is not a problem, it is a feature!  No kidding.  All of our uucp
logins have unique names and passwords but the same bloody UID and it
works great!  If there is a problem it is not this.  It is supposed to
use the same uid (although it will work with different uids).

Fred

authorplaceholder@mcorp.UUCP (03/04/87)

Here are some clarifications on my last request.

	1.  I do not have a direct connection.
	    I can successful call osu-eddie with my modem and send them the
	    files sitting on my end.

	2.  When osu-eddie calls me, they send me files and pick up whatever
	    files I have on my end.

	3.  I've included the following entries:
======
L.sys
=====
osu-eddie Wk1735-0730|Sa|Su ACU 2400 5551212 "" \r ogin:-\b\d\c-ogin: uucp ssword: uucp

=========
L-devices
=========
ACU ttyd0 ttyd0 2400 multitech

======
L.cmds
======
rmail X1
rnews X1
PATH=:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:

========
USERFILE
========
remote,	X1	/usr/spool/uucppublic 
local,	X9	/
uucp,   X3      /
nuucp,	x3	/
usenet,osu-eddie X1 /usr/spool/uucppublic

========
The following is the output of /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -sosu-eddie -x9.
I know that there was something waiting to come across because the last login
by osu-eddie aborted in the middle of transferring a file.

Spoolname is: /usr/spool/uucp/sys/DEFAULT
anlwrk, file is null, fp=0
bldlst pre::
In SubDir, directory is:/usr/spool/uucp/sys/DEFAULT/C.:
finds called
getto called
call: no. 5551212 for sys osu-edd
Looking for ACU
Using ACU to call
Dialing 5551212
correct brand multitech
Using generic
Calling gen_setupopen succeeded
login called
wanted "" got that
send \r
RETURN
wanted ogin: \015\012\015\0124.2 BSD UNIX (osu-eddie) /dev/ttyi2\015\012\015\015\012\015login:got that
send uucp
wanted ssword:  uucp\015\012Password:got that
send uucp
imsg >\015\012Last login: Sat Feb 14 12:34:11 on ttyi7\015\012============================================================================\015\012============================================================================\015\012\020<
Shere=osu-edd\000Switching to new line discipline
imsg >\020<
ROK\000msg-ROK
 Rmtname osu-edd, Role MASTER,  Ifn - 8, Loginuser - root
rmesg - 'P' imsg >\020<
Pgex\000got Pgex
wmesg 'U'g
Proto started g
protocol g
*** TOP ***  -  role=1, anlwrk, file is null, fp=0
wmesg 'H'
rmesg - 'H' got HY
 PROCESS: msg - HY
HUP:
wmesg 'H'Y
cntrl - 0
 enter us_sst, status is : 00
s.sysname :  Altos
s.sysname :  Altos
s.sysname : osu-ed
send OO 0,imsg >\020<
\011\010*"\011\020\002!l\022]HY\000imsg >\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\020<
\011"*\010\011\020\011"*\010\011\020OOOOOO\000imsg >\020<
OOOOOO\000about to close acu
close generic, Def = 8
clsacu entered
exit code 0


============
Philip Gross
Columbus, Ohio 43229
(614) 895 - 0738
osu-eddie!mcorp!phil

dave@wor-mein.UUCP (03/05/87)

Sorry if I've caused any confusion here.  When I was bringing up Ultrix 1.1,
I was unable to get our system to successfully poll another (tikal).  A friend
suggested that I make the user id of the login for tikal different than for
the uucp login.  That fixed our problem.  I don't remember the reasoning
behind it except that I think it had something to do with some system V
compatibility.  I didn't mean to imply that user id for ALL of your logins
for uucp connections had to be different, just that it should be different
from the "uucp" login.  We only poll one machine so all of ours are unique.

We are running Ultrix 1.2 now so I made a little test.  I went back and
changed the user/group id of Utikal from 6:1 to 4:1 which is the same as
uucp.  I got the following messages from uucico -x9:

	RETRY TIME (3300) NOT REACHED
	about to close acu
	clsacu entered
	exit code 0

I tried this several times changing the user id between 4 and 6.  Each time
it is 4 ( same as uucp ), I get the error message.  Each time it is 6,
( unique ), the conection is made. 

The passwd file looks like this:

uucp:password:4:1:UNIX-to-UNIX Copy:/usr/spool/uucppublic:/usr/lib/uucp/uucico
uudaemon:password:4:1:uucp daemon:/usr/spool/uucppublic:/bin/sh
Utikal:password:6:1:Teltone uucp:/usr/spool/uucppublic:/usr/lib/uucp/uucico


If someone can explain what is really going on here, I'd be interested.

					Dave Axness
					...uw-beaver!tikal!wor-mein!dave