dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) (11/30/87)
We're an educational institution (the Bar Admission Course) within the governing body of a self-regulating profession. In 1983, when we began developing CAI, we had no problem getting an educational source license, and it's proven invaluable in the development of our student system. This machine (lsuc) is licensed for System III, though it's running a v7-derivative (Perkin-Elmer's port, for which we also have a source license). AT&T Canada has recently donated a large amount of equipment to us for setting up a new classroom to teach computer skills to lawyers and law students. Included in the package is a 3B2/400 which acts as both UNIX host and PC file-server to a roomful of PC6300's using StarLAN. The 3B2 is running System V, Release 3. When I enquired about a source license for the new system, I was told it would be difficult to get, and that AT&T is granting such licenses now only to universities which grant degrees in computer science, where the source is needed for teaching. I am informed that now that System V is a standard, they want us to do everything from the documentation rather than the source; that everything can be configured using configuration tools without needing source; that we shouldn't be changing UNIX or its tools ourselves anyway; and that all the traditional reasons for wanting source, other than teaching the kernel to CS students, aren't enough anymore. Have others run into this change in approach to licensing? After 11.5 years of UNIX with source, I find the idea of working without it uncomfortable; but maybe the world really has changed. David Sherman The Law Society of Upper Canada Osgoode Hall Toronto, Canada M5H 2N6 (416) 947-3466 -- { uunet!mnetor pyramid!utai decvax!utcsri ihnp4!utzoo } !lsuc!dave Pronounce it ell-ess-you-see, please...
bzs@bu-cs.bu.EDU (Barry Shein) (12/03/87)
>When I enquired about a source license for the new system, I was >told it would be difficult to get, and that AT&T is granting such >licenses now only to universities which grant degrees in computer >science, where the source is needed for teaching. Interesting, when you consider that said source license expressly forbids using the code in teaching. I guess that doesn't obviate the need, just fulfilling it. -Barry Shein, Boston University