[comp.unix.wizards] BSD at AT&T

stpeters@dawn.steinmetz (Dick St.Peters) (12/11/87)

In article <3259@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> ekrell@hector (Eduardo Krell) writes:
>In article <3053@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes:
>
>>	That an AT&T employee would rather use a foreign, unsupported
>>product than his own company's native, supported, official "one true Unix"
>> ...
>I disagree with the implication.  Both System V and BSD Unix have their
>pros and cons.  Depending on what you're doing, in some cases you'll be
>better off with System V and in other cases you'll prefer BSD (for instance,
>research vs development).  I see nothing wrong with that. It just says
>that neither is perfect.

The issue, as I see it, is not which system is better but that AT&T
has tried its best to impose on everyone else a "one true UNIX" that
it doesn't feel constrained to impose on itself.

Maybe if Mr. Krell had to use his own company's product, he just might
find a way to convince AT&T to improve it enough so everybody *wanted*
to use it.
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Dick St.Peters                        
GE Corporate R&D, Schenectady, NY
stpeters@ge-crd.arpa              
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ekrell@hector.UUCP (Eduardo Krell) (12/13/87)

In article <8170@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> dawn!stpeters@steinmetz.UUCP (Dick St.Peters) writes:

>The issue, as I see it, is not which system is better but that AT&T
>has tried its best to impose on everyone else a "one true UNIX" that
>it doesn't feel constrained to impose on itself.

It's not that dictatorial. Witness the current standarization efforts AT&T
is involved in (with Microsoft on Xenix/System V, with Sun on a SPARC standard,
POSIX, etc).

>Maybe if Mr. Krell had to use his own company's product, he just might
>find a way to convince AT&T to improve it enough so everybody *wanted*
>to use it.

That's exactly what I'm doing.  All the kernel work I do is on System V
Release 3.x machines. I'm quite satisfied with the changes we've made
(otherwise I wouldn't be using it). Whether we can convince the powers
to be to include these changes in the official System V distribution
is a completely different problem.
    
    Eduardo Krell                   AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill

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