rkxyv@mergvax.UUCP (Robert Kedoin) (02/18/88)
I don't think this is the "right" newsgrooup to post this in, but I
can't find a more appropriate one.
How does one go about getting on the ARPAnet ? I am curious about the
hardware necessary (if any) and the cost of doing this. Also, what
qualifications does a company have to meet to be allowed on ARPAnet ?
The reason for wanting ARPA access is that I keep seeing many programs
that are available via "anonymous FTP". I DO NOT know how to get
these files from my site which is only on USENET (if in fact it is
possible.) Does anyone know how to do this ?
Any information on either of these questions would be greatly
appreciated.
-Rob Kedoin
UUCP: ...{philabs,motown}\!mergvax\!rkxyv
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VOICE: (516) 434 - 2729blarson@skat.usc.edu (Bob Larson) (02/19/88)
In article <305@mergvax.UUCP> rkxyv@mergvax.UUCP (Robert Kedoin) writes: >I don't think this is the "right" newsgrooup to post this in Probably comp.protocols.tcp-ip, but they won't need my answer... >How does one go about getting on the ARPAnet ? Before worrying about hardware and software needs, talk to your U.S. Dept. of Defence contacts about if they would be willing to sponsor you. (It is the DEFENCE advanced research program agency network.) >The reason for wanting ARPA access is that I keep seeing many programs >that are available via "anonymous FTP". I DO NOT know how to get >these files from my site which is only on USENET (if in fact it is >possible.) Ah, there is a much easier and cheaper solution if this is all you want. From what I understand, uunet has something set up so they will uucp files ftped from arpanet to their customers on request. Contact uunet!uunet and ask if they do this and how you sign up. -- Bob Larson Arpa: Blarson@Ecla.Usc.Edu blarson@skat.usc.edu Uucp: {sdcrdcf,cit-vax}!oberon!skat!blarson Prime mailing list: info-prime-request%fns1@ecla.usc.edu oberon!fns1!info-prime-request
meissner@xyzzy.UUCP (Michael Meissner) (02/20/88)
In article <7062@oberon.USC.EDU> blarson@skat.usc.edu (Bob Larson) writes: | In article <305@mergvax.UUCP> rkxyv@mergvax.UUCP (Robert Kedoin) writes: | >I don't think this is the "right" newsgrooup to post this in | | Probably comp.protocols.tcp-ip, but they won't need my answer... | | >How does one go about getting on the ARPAnet ? | | Before worrying about hardware and software needs, talk to your U.S. | Dept. of Defence contacts about if they would be willing to sponsor | you. (It is the DEFENCE advanced research program agency network.) Actually there are other ways to join the Internet (of which what used to be the ARPAnet is just two pieces). I don't know all the details, of what connects to what, but here goes.... The Internet is a collection of networks which speak TCP/IP and are connected. Each network has it's own rules and such about access policies, who pays, etc. The four that I can think of off the top of my head are the civilian side of what used to be ARPAnet (researchNet is the name I've typically heard for it); the military side (now called MILnet), and CSNET X.25 net (not the mailnet, which is tied together with phonelines, like UUCP); and NFSNet (various supercomputer sites and affiliated universities). Data General, for instance connects through the CSNET X.25 interface, and when the links are up, I can FTP files from any site on the internet. I believe we had to pay a $30,000 initial fee, plus some monthly costs for a class B network number (the network number determines how many hosts you can hook in your network to the internet, a class A can have around 2 ** 24 hosts, class B can have around 2 ** 16, and a class C can have 254). | >The reason for wanting ARPA access is that I keep seeing many programs | >that are available via "anonymous FTP". I DO NOT know how to get | >these files from my site which is only on USENET (if in fact it is | >possible.) | | Ah, there is a much easier and cheaper solution if this is all you want. | From what I understand, uunet has something set up so they will uucp | files ftped from arpanet to their customers on request. Contact | uunet!uunet and ask if they do this and how you sign up. uunet will probably be cheaper if all you want to get is some files, though you might inquire with the CSNET folks about their costs. Try contacting somebody as sh.cs.net (postmaster maybe?). -- Michael Meissner, Data General. Uucp: ...!mcnc!rti!xyzzy!meissner Arpa/Csnet: meissner@dg-rtp.DG.COM