quiroz@cs.rochester.edu (Cesar Quiroz) (05/19/88)
This is an aside to the currently going discussion about the merits of including csh in the standard Sys V distribution (on which I have no opinion, so I changed the Subject line, excuse me the breach of accepted etiquette). From article <2593@polyslo.UUCP> (jeff@polyslo.UUCP (Skippy The Wonder Hacker)): : : The system that I run is the major unix machine for the university. :Here is the breakdown on shells: : : csh(actually tcsh): 740 : sh: 5 : I tried same in our systems and discovered NO sh users. Now, that is peculiar, as I know of at least one. Careful inspection showed that his entry in the /etc/passwd didn't have a shell field. That defaults to /bin/sh. So, you too might be undercounting your sh users, if their entries are just defaulting. Not that this has much to do with anything that is being discussed. -- Cesar Augusto Quiroz Gonzalez Department of Computer Science ...allegra!rochester!quiroz University of Rochester or Rochester, NY 14627 quiroz@cs.rochester.edu
rbj@icst-cmr.arpa (Root Boy Jim) (05/20/88)
From: Cesar Quiroz <quiroz@cs.rochester.edu> I tried same in our systems and discovered NO sh users. Now, that is peculiar, as I know of at least one. Careful inspection showed that his entry in the /etc/passwd didn't have a shell field. That defaults to /bin/sh. So, you too might be undercounting your sh users, if their entries are just defaulting. Or where you count it might make a difference. At TPC, most people sh or ksh. On a BSD derived system, most everyone uses csh or tcsh. BRL might be an exception. BTW, how many people actually use a System V environment on machines that provide dual universes? Are those companys merely practicing their porting skills? Cesar Augusto Quiroz Gonzalez Department of Computer Science ...allegra!rochester!quiroz University of Rochester or Rochester, NY 14627 quiroz@cs.rochester.edu (Root Boy) Jim Cottrell <rbj@icst-cmr.arpa> National Bureau of Standards Flamer's Hotline: (301) 975-5688 The opinions expressed are solely my own and do not reflect NBS policy or agreement My name is in /usr/dict/words. Is yours?
gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (05/20/88)
In article <14472@brl-adm.ARPA> rbj@icst-cmr.arpa (Root Boy Jim) writes: >BTW, how many people actually use a System V environment on machines that >provide dual universes? Obviously, we do. In fact our System V emulation was developed specifically because it was deemed necessary for supporting application portability. It sure wasn't because I felt I had nothing better to do.