ronc@cerebus.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian) (07/05/88)
In article <16370@brl-adm.ARPA> rbj@cmr.icst.nbs.gov (Root Boy Jim) writes: >? In article <16196@brl-adm.ARPA> ronc@cerebus writes: >? >Well, with BSD, at least you have source. >? >? I don't understand this comment. Please amplify? > >Exactly what I said. He might need the source to port to a machine that >has internet support, but not lpr/lpd, which I can't imagine, but might >conceivably exist. For example, AIX does have some internet support, but >since it is System V based, might use lp rather than lpr. Not what I meant. Why does having BSD imply having source? You never heard of a binary distribution? Mind you *we* have source, but I once worked in a place that was running a binary of 4.2 BSD from Mt Xinu. I bet there's a lot more. Vendors who supply their own version of BSD with their Unix box seldom supply source. Some of them merrily map the bugs right over, or leave out the (sometimes critical) documentation that lurks in /usr/src. (I remember a person in wizards saying something like "For crying out loud! Everyone knows that the documentation for foo is in /usr/src/doc!" /usr/src/doc. What a concept.) Last time I checked, source for 4.3 costs over twenty thousand. (20K for the ATT license, and another 1K for the BSD tapes.) Not every company will spring for that. Ron -- Ronald O. Christian (Fujitsu America Inc., San Jose, Calif.) {amdahl, pyramid, sun, unisoft, uunet}!cerebus!ronc Calling all Fujitsu Usenet sites! Contact cerebus!ronc or ronc@fai.com to establish uucp connection.
zjat02@apctrc.UUCP (Jon A. Tankersley) (07/14/88)
In article <781@cerebus.UUCP> ronc@cerebus.UUCP (Ronald O. Christian) writes: >In article <16370@brl-adm.ARPA> rbj@cmr.icst.nbs.gov (Root Boy Jim) writes: >>? In article <16196@brl-adm.ARPA> ronc@cerebus writes: >>? >Well, with BSD, at least you have source. > >Last time I checked, source for 4.3 costs over twenty thousand. (20K >for the ATT license, and another 1K for the BSD tapes.) Not every company >will spring for that. > Twenty thou? Must be black market. AT&T is now selling SVID R3 for seventy- seven thousand. Makes it even harder for companies to spring for the source. I got a related question for the non-vendor UNIX'ers. How many non-vendor sites really have a source license. I've been fighting for about five years (back when it was 43K) to get one, and I can't get anywhere. I could use some ammo :-). I'd like to find out how many non-computer companies have licensed UNIX. I'd like to also yell at AT&T about splitting the rates and adding a middle one for non-educational and non-computer. In the bigger companies, lawyers tend to get involved and frown on some of the license clauses. I'd rather have email than postings. I'll post a composite response (no names) if I get more than 2 requests for such. Thanx -tank- #include <disclaimer.h> /* nobody knows the trouble I .... */ -- #include <disclaimer.h> /* nobody knows the trouble I .... */