[comp.unix.wizards] modem programs for Unix

jimb@faatcrl.UUCP (Jim Burwell) (10/21/89)

Hi there..

Does anyone know of any terminal programs, besides "tip" or "cu" for
Unix systems ?  

We have a Sun 3/160 and a Sparc with a Telebit T2500, and a CDS 224 hooked
to the serial ports..  I've looked everywhere, but I can't seem to find
ANY terminal programs for Unix that work with our system.  Tip and cu just
don't cut it, since they don't have any file transfer protocols, etc.  Are
there any modem programs for Unix systems which even come close to those
available for PCs ?  

I did manage to find a program called "pcomm", a terminal which has the
"look and feel" of procomm.  Alas, it was for System V, and even though I
got it to compile and run on the Sun, with the Sys V compatible compiler and
libraries, all it would do is dial the modem, and send stuff out.  I could
see data coming in, but it wouldn't appear on my screen...


Any help would be appreciated!

Bye
Jim


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voss@s.cs.uiuc.edu (10/24/89)

> We have a Sun 3/160 and a Sparc with a Telebit T2500, and a CDS 224 hooked
> to the serial ports..  I've looked everywhere, but I can't seem to find
> ANY terminal programs for Unix that work with our system.  Tip and cu just
> don't cut it, since they don't have any file transfer protocols, etc.  Are
> there any modem programs for Unix systems which even come close to those
> available for PCs ?  

	I'll grant you that "tip" does not hold the user's hand
the way PC programs such as Qmodem and Procomm do, however I know
from personal experience that it is possible to:
	tip from a SUN 3/160 running SUNOS 3.5 to a VAX running Bsd.
	start "sz" (send zmodem) on the VAX to send a file to the SUN.
	use the tip ~ escape (I think it was ~|) to start "rz" (receive zmodem)
		as a sub-program with stdin == tip line, stout = tip line,
		and stderr == the SUN window tip was started in.
It worked like a champ for me when I needed to transfer compressed tar files.
Zmodem gives you lots of progress messages, so you'll know if anything
goes wrong.

	You should have no problem finding Zmodem (rz and sz) at
your neighborhood archive.  There are freely distributable versions.

--Bill Voss

rowe@cme.nist.gov (Walter Rowe) (10/25/89)

I don't know the details on obtaining it, but I have used Kermit for a
number of years now.  It runs on VMS, UNIX, MS-DOS, and tons of other
architectures.  Does anyone out there know if its ftp'able from CMU?

Walter
---
Walter Rowe, System Admin.
Robot Systems Division, NIST
rowe@cme.nist.gov

johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) (10/25/89)

In article <ROWE.89Oct24152801@stella.cme.nist.gov> rowe@cme.nist.gov (Walter Rowe) writes:
>I don't know the details on obtaining it, but I have used Kermit for a
>number of years now.  It runs on VMS, UNIX, MS-DOS, and tons of other
>architectures.  Does anyone out there know if its ftp'able from CMU?

From the Kermit distribution file aanetw.hlp:

Effective August 18, 1988, the Kermit files are available on host
CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a VAX 8700 running UNIX (Ultrix).  The IP host number
is 128.59.40.130.  You may get files from it with anonymous FTP.  The Kermit
files are in directories kermit/a, kermit/b, kermit/c, kermit/d, and kermit/e.
You can also send mail to Info-Kermit and Info-Kermit-Request at this address.
 
The process is roughly like this: FTP to CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, login
anonymous (lowercase only), any password (we prefer that you use "user@host"
for the password, specifying your userid and hostname, for our statistics),
and then CWD (or CD) to kermit, which contains a file read.me, which you
should read.  Then CWD (or CD) to a, b, c, d, or e and GET or MULTIPLE GET (or
MGET) the files you want.  Note that file names are lowercase, and you must
refer to them that way on CUNIXC, even though all the Kermit documentation
lists the filenames in uppercase!
 
Since CUNIXC is a heavily-used machine, please try not to FTP files from it
during peak hours.  There are presently no formal restrictions, so please
don't overburden the system.  If the response is very slow, cancel your
session and try again later.
 
As of April 1987, you may also access the same set of files, in the same way,
on a new host, watsun.cc.columbia.edu, IP host number 128.59.40.130.  Response
time from watsun should be better than cunixc in most cases.  At some time in
the future, cunixc Kermit file access will be phased out in favor of watsun.
 
You can also access kermit files care/of Oklahoma State via anon UUCP:
 ----- UUCP Login information -----
 
Site Name    : okstate
Phone number : (405) 744-6953
Login name   : uucpker
Password     : thefrog
Hours        : 24 hours per day, 7 days a week
Problem      : okstate!uucp-support                          (UUCP)
  reports    : uucp-support@a.cs.okstate.edu                 (Internet)
 
The phone number is for 300/1200/2400 baud (bell 103/212a/2224 compatible).
 
The following is a sample L.sys line (\r is a carriage return).  You might
want to put a time restriction on "Any", such as Any0000-0800 to save on
your phone bills.
 
okstate Any ACU 2400 405-744-6953 "" \r ogin: uucpker word: thefrog
 
Just a few notes on how to best retrieve parts of the Kermit distribution
using UUCP...
 
  -  Install the proper L.sys entry and test it using the debugging option
     of UUCICO (-x4).  Repeat this step until you successfully complete a
     "no work" connection, this will verify that your L.sys entry is correct
     and will minimize frazzled nerves.
 
  -  Retrieve the files `aaaread.me' and `aafiles.dir' with the following
     commands:
 
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me  /usr/spool/uucppublic
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.a
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.b
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-c/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.c
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-d/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.d
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-e/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.e
 
     You will have to escape the exclamation point and the tilde if you are
     using the C shell (i.e. ...okstate\!\~uucp/kermit-a...).
 
  -  Choose the versions of Kermit that you wish to transfer and issue the
     proper UUCP command.  Some systems don't seem to like wildcards, but
     in any case the wildcards will have to be escaped from your shell. The
     following command would retrieve the files relating to C-Kermit:
 
uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic
 
     PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF /usr/spool/uucppublic!  Unless you *really*
     understand how UUCP's protections work you should not change this!  A
     number of people have queued >100 files and had their systems refuse
     to store them in out of the way places.  This results in wasted phone
     time!


I can give you more information if you need help.

-- 
Wayne Johnson                 (Voice) 612-638-7665
NCR Comten, Inc.             (E-MAIL) W.Johnson@StPaul.NCR.COM or
Roseville MN 55113                    johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM
These opinions (or spelling) do not necessarily reflect those of NCR Comten.

seth@ctr.columbia.edu (Seth Robertson) (10/26/89)

In article <116@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM> johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) writes:
>
>From the Kermit distribution file aanetw.hlp:
>
>Effective August 18, 1988, the Kermit files are available on host
>CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a VAX 8700 running UNIX (Ultrix).

WRONG!  (Or rather, out of date.)

The Internetwork home of Kermit Distribution has moved from
cunixc.cc.columbia.edu to watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2].
The Kermit files will also be maintained on cunixc for a period
of time, but eventually cunixc will be retired.  Please ftp files
from watsun from now on.


                                        -Seth Robertson
                                         seth@ctr.columbia.edu