jimb@faatcrl.UUCP (Jim Burwell) (10/21/89)
Hi there.. Does anyone know of any terminal programs, besides "tip" or "cu" for Unix systems ? We have a Sun 3/160 and a Sparc with a Telebit T2500, and a CDS 224 hooked to the serial ports.. I've looked everywhere, but I can't seem to find ANY terminal programs for Unix that work with our system. Tip and cu just don't cut it, since they don't have any file transfer protocols, etc. Are there any modem programs for Unix systems which even come close to those available for PCs ? I did manage to find a program called "pcomm", a terminal which has the "look and feel" of procomm. Alas, it was for System V, and even though I got it to compile and run on the Sun, with the Sys V compatible compiler and libraries, all it would do is dial the modem, and send stuff out. I could see data coming in, but it wouldn't appear on my screen... Any help would be appreciated! Bye Jim -- +------------------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | James S. Burwell | | | | "UseNet...A text network | | UUCP: | in a binary world" - Me | | ...!{ames!netsys|rutgers}!faatcrl | | | !jimb | "How do you say | | . | 'multitasking' in | | Internet: . | MS-DOSish? Network | | // jimb@faatcrl.UUCP . ** | File Server!" - Me | | // . **** | | | \\ // GEnie: Airwarior: . .** | <reserved for future> | | \X/ JIMBURWELL Techrat . | <expansion.... > | +------------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
voss@s.cs.uiuc.edu (10/24/89)
> We have a Sun 3/160 and a Sparc with a Telebit T2500, and a CDS 224 hooked > to the serial ports.. I've looked everywhere, but I can't seem to find > ANY terminal programs for Unix that work with our system. Tip and cu just > don't cut it, since they don't have any file transfer protocols, etc. Are > there any modem programs for Unix systems which even come close to those > available for PCs ? I'll grant you that "tip" does not hold the user's hand the way PC programs such as Qmodem and Procomm do, however I know from personal experience that it is possible to: tip from a SUN 3/160 running SUNOS 3.5 to a VAX running Bsd. start "sz" (send zmodem) on the VAX to send a file to the SUN. use the tip ~ escape (I think it was ~|) to start "rz" (receive zmodem) as a sub-program with stdin == tip line, stout = tip line, and stderr == the SUN window tip was started in. It worked like a champ for me when I needed to transfer compressed tar files. Zmodem gives you lots of progress messages, so you'll know if anything goes wrong. You should have no problem finding Zmodem (rz and sz) at your neighborhood archive. There are freely distributable versions. --Bill Voss
rowe@cme.nist.gov (Walter Rowe) (10/25/89)
I don't know the details on obtaining it, but I have used Kermit for a number of years now. It runs on VMS, UNIX, MS-DOS, and tons of other architectures. Does anyone out there know if its ftp'able from CMU? Walter --- Walter Rowe, System Admin. Robot Systems Division, NIST rowe@cme.nist.gov
johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) (10/25/89)
In article <ROWE.89Oct24152801@stella.cme.nist.gov> rowe@cme.nist.gov (Walter Rowe) writes: >I don't know the details on obtaining it, but I have used Kermit for a >number of years now. It runs on VMS, UNIX, MS-DOS, and tons of other >architectures. Does anyone out there know if its ftp'able from CMU? From the Kermit distribution file aanetw.hlp: Effective August 18, 1988, the Kermit files are available on host CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a VAX 8700 running UNIX (Ultrix). The IP host number is 128.59.40.130. You may get files from it with anonymous FTP. The Kermit files are in directories kermit/a, kermit/b, kermit/c, kermit/d, and kermit/e. You can also send mail to Info-Kermit and Info-Kermit-Request at this address. The process is roughly like this: FTP to CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, login anonymous (lowercase only), any password (we prefer that you use "user@host" for the password, specifying your userid and hostname, for our statistics), and then CWD (or CD) to kermit, which contains a file read.me, which you should read. Then CWD (or CD) to a, b, c, d, or e and GET or MULTIPLE GET (or MGET) the files you want. Note that file names are lowercase, and you must refer to them that way on CUNIXC, even though all the Kermit documentation lists the filenames in uppercase! Since CUNIXC is a heavily-used machine, please try not to FTP files from it during peak hours. There are presently no formal restrictions, so please don't overburden the system. If the response is very slow, cancel your session and try again later. As of April 1987, you may also access the same set of files, in the same way, on a new host, watsun.cc.columbia.edu, IP host number 128.59.40.130. Response time from watsun should be better than cunixc in most cases. At some time in the future, cunixc Kermit file access will be phased out in favor of watsun. You can also access kermit files care/of Oklahoma State via anon UUCP: ----- UUCP Login information ----- Site Name : okstate Phone number : (405) 744-6953 Login name : uucpker Password : thefrog Hours : 24 hours per day, 7 days a week Problem : okstate!uucp-support (UUCP) reports : uucp-support@a.cs.okstate.edu (Internet) The phone number is for 300/1200/2400 baud (bell 103/212a/2224 compatible). The following is a sample L.sys line (\r is a carriage return). You might want to put a time restriction on "Any", such as Any0000-0800 to save on your phone bills. okstate Any ACU 2400 405-744-6953 "" \r ogin: uucpker word: thefrog Just a few notes on how to best retrieve parts of the Kermit distribution using UUCP... - Install the proper L.sys entry and test it using the debugging option of UUCICO (-x4). Repeat this step until you successfully complete a "no work" connection, this will verify that your L.sys entry is correct and will minimize frazzled nerves. - Retrieve the files `aaaread.me' and `aafiles.dir' with the following commands: uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aaaread.me /usr/spool/uucppublic uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-a/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.a uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.b uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-c/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.c uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-d/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.d uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-e/aafiles.dir /usr/spool/uucppublic/files.dir.e You will have to escape the exclamation point and the tilde if you are using the C shell (i.e. ...okstate\!\~uucp/kermit-a...). - Choose the versions of Kermit that you wish to transfer and issue the proper UUCP command. Some systems don't seem to like wildcards, but in any case the wildcards will have to be escaped from your shell. The following command would retrieve the files relating to C-Kermit: uucp okstate!~uucp/kermit-b/ck\* /usr/spool/uucppublic PLEASE NOTE THE USE OF /usr/spool/uucppublic! Unless you *really* understand how UUCP's protections work you should not change this! A number of people have queued >100 files and had their systems refuse to store them in out of the way places. This results in wasted phone time! I can give you more information if you need help. -- Wayne Johnson (Voice) 612-638-7665 NCR Comten, Inc. (E-MAIL) W.Johnson@StPaul.NCR.COM or Roseville MN 55113 johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM These opinions (or spelling) do not necessarily reflect those of NCR Comten.
seth@ctr.columbia.edu (Seth Robertson) (10/26/89)
In article <116@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM> johnson@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. Johnson) writes: > >From the Kermit distribution file aanetw.hlp: > >Effective August 18, 1988, the Kermit files are available on host >CUNIXC.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a VAX 8700 running UNIX (Ultrix). WRONG! (Or rather, out of date.) The Internetwork home of Kermit Distribution has moved from cunixc.cc.columbia.edu to watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]. The Kermit files will also be maintained on cunixc for a period of time, but eventually cunixc will be retired. Please ftp files from watsun from now on. -Seth Robertson seth@ctr.columbia.edu