[comp.unix.wizards] pronunciation of *

cm@yarra.oz.au (Charles Meo) (10/30/89)

The whole discussion on this matter is asinine.

Stop it.

chuck
not a wizard.
-- 
Heresy, Barricades, Threats, Big Promises.......

jay@silence.princeton.nj.us (Jay Plett) (10/30/89)

splat, star.

nasa@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) (10/30/89)

In article <5047@yarra.oz.au> cm@yarra.oz.au (Charles Meo) writes:

>The whole discussion on this matter is asinine.
>
>Stop it.
>
>chuck
>not a wizard.
>-- 
>Heresy, Barricades, Threats, Big Promises.......

How do you pronounce '*'?  

I have allways called it 'splat' (the sound of a '.' falling from a great 
height) but when I do, nobody seems to know what I am talking about...


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mkaminsk@cvbnet.UUCP (Mark Kaminsky/x4495) (11/08/89)

From article <2385@stl.stc.co.uk>, by dsr@stl.stc.co.uk (David Riches):
> In article <2008@cs-spool.calgary.UUCP> cliff@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Cliff Marcellus) writes:
> %  ... and what about '!' (bang) and '~' (twiddle) and '#' (pound)
> Actually it's '!' (shriek) and '~' (tilde) and '#' (hash) nad '^' (hat!!)

While working in New York I was told by one of the customer-service reps
told about a customer who kept on refering to pine-cones.  It took her
about 10 minutes to figure out that the customer was talking about the
'*" key!


Mark B. Kaminsky, Computervision Division, PRIME Computer, Inc. , Bedford, MA
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andyc@hpopd.HP.COM (Andrew Cunningham) (11/09/89)

/ hpopd:comp.unix.wizards / dsr@stl.stc.co.uk (David Riches) /  1:18 pm  Nov  6, 1989 /
>In article <2008@cs-spool.calgary.UUCP> cliff@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Cliff Marcellus) writes:
>%  ... and what about '!' (bang) and '~' (twiddle) and '#' (pound)
# is a hash on my screen.  I use hash for this, irrespective
of whether it's actually displayed as a hash or a pound sign. 


>%  although I don't know WHY '^' is called 'carrot' ('caret')  :-)
>%
>Actually it's '!' (shriek) and '~' (tilde) and '#' (hash) nad '^' (hat!!)
>----------

What's wrong with "twiddle" for a `~'? The problem is that when you have
a conversation littered with the words "twiddle", "widget", and "gadget",
non computer experts think you're under the afluence of inkahol, so
to speak.

Also I like pling for !.

I just wish I could get out of the habit of pronouncing $ as "string",
from my (not-too) early childhood days of BASIC (if you'll excuse my
language).

It doesn't really matter how you pronounce it, as long as other people
know what you mean.....

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daveh@marob.masa.com (Dave Hammond) (11/10/89)

In article <303@orchid.warwick.ac.uk> Richard J Cox writes:
>! pling

 ! bang  (must be a remnant from my typography days :-)

--
Dave Hammond
daveh@marob.masa.com

daveb@elaited.i88.isc.com (Dave Burton) (11/11/89)

> ! bang  (must be a remnant from my typography days :-)

and ``*!$@#'' (usually pronounced ``darn'') must be a remnant of
my comic strip writing days, as in, this is a *!$@# waste of time,
why don't we stop it?
-- 
Dave Burton
uunet!ism780c!laidbak!daveb

dgh@unify.UUCP (David Harrington) (11/11/89)

In article <303@orchid.warwick.ac.uk> maujt@warwick.ac.uk (Richard J Cox) writes:
>In article <469020f0.81da@digital.sps.mot.com> chen@digital.sps.MOT.COM (Jinfu Chen) writes:
>>In article <9945@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> nasa@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) writes:
>>>
>>>How do you pronounce '*'?  
>>>
>>
>>While on the same subject, how about following:
>[...Listing the characters below...]
>! pling

Wrong.  ! = BANG

pcf@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Pete French) (11/13/89)

(I have resisted contributing to this junk until now but...)

>In article <9945@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> nasa@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) writes:
>
>How do you pronounce '*'?  

Long ago, before I had ever encountered UNIX, I read a magazine article 
entitled "UNIX - pretender to the throne of CP/M ?"  (which actually
slagged it off rather badly for not fitting onto a 64k Z80 machine!)
that calimed that everyone pronounced "*" as "glob" - short for "global"
as in "ls *". Most people I have met think that it should be pronounced
as "glob" - but none of them ever use it. 

-Pete French.

woody@rpp386.cactus.org (Woodrow Baker) (11/13/89)

In article <1234@unify.UUCP>, dgh@unify.UUCP (David Harrington) writes:
> In article <303@orchid.warwick.ac.uk> maujt@warwick.ac.uk (Richard J Cox) writes:
> >In article <469020f0.81da@digital.sps.mot.com> chen@digital.sps.MOT.COM (Jinfu Chen) writes:
> >>In article <9945@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> nasa@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) writes:
> >>>
> >>>How do you pronounce '*'?  
> >>>
> >>
When I first got started with 'C' I had a &^$%^* (ha) of a time understanding
pointers.  It only became clear when my guru (all beginning 'C'ers need a guru)
told me to pronounce it as    'at'   It would have made a lot more sense
for K & R to have defined    '@' to be the indirection operator, since it is
not used, and since it unloads the '*' a bit, but it was not done.

char * pointer   ====>verbalizes as    char at pointer    which clearly
states the concept.

cheers, Woody

ce202a2@prism.gatech.EDU (THOMAS, PETE (TEACHING ASSISTANT)) (11/14/89)

Ridiculous.  A * is a star is a star.  Nobody says "asterisk" and for
gossakes "ls 'glob'" or "globe" or "global" just doesn't roll off the
tongue.  Sorry to say but I'll keep on saying star; noone's called me
names yet because of it.  (Although that may start tomorrow).
-- 
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"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: {gt5139c,ce202a2}@prism.gatech.edu

tr@pcharming.ctt.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (11/14/89)

The way to pronounce '@' is "whirlpool".

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tr@pcharming.ctt.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (11/14/89)

The way to pronounce '#' is "mesh".

The way to pronounce '=' is "semimesh".

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tr@pcharming.ctt.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (11/14/89)

Well, to those who call a '*' an "asterisk", I offer this poem:

	Suzy Smith put on her skates
	upon the ice to frisk.
	Her friends thought her a little strange
	her little *.

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gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (11/15/89)

In article <18198@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@pcharming.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:
>The way to pronounce '#' is "mesh".
>The way to pronounce '=' is "semimesh".

Now if we only knew how to pronounce Gigamesh.

jam@gumby.Philips.Com (John A. Murphy) (11/15/89)

 * = splat
 and another vote for ! = bang

Murf
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sft@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (scott.thompson) (11/15/89)

The way to pronounce '*' is "splat".
-- 
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mercer@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) (11/15/89)

In article <3403@hydra.gatech.EDU> ce202a2@prism.gatech.EDU (THOMAS, PETE (TEACHING ASSISTANT)) writes:
:Ridiculous.  A * is a star is a star.  Nobody says "asterisk" and for
:gossakes "ls 'glob'" or "globe" or "global" just doesn't roll off the
:tongue.  Sorry to say but I'll keep on saying star; noone's called me
:names yet because of it.  (Although that may start tomorrow).
:-- 
:Peter L. Thomas (E GR 1170Z{1,2}, UTA)
:"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate."
:Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
:Internet: {gt5139c,ce202a2}@prism.gatech.edu

Star and asterisk are both acceptable.  But personally,  I prefer
splat which fits in very nicely with ! bang.
-- 

Dan Mercer
Reply-To: mercer@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer)

hughes@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (larry hughes) (11/15/89)

In article <17292@rpp386.cactus.org> woody@rpp386.cactus.org (Woodrow Baker) writes:
>When I first got started with 'C' I had a &^$%^* (ha) of a time understanding
>pointers.  It only became clear when my guru (all beginning 'C'ers need a guru)
>told me to pronounce it as    'at'   It would have made a lot more sense
>for K & R to have defined    '@' to be the indirection operator, since it is
>not used, and since it unloads the '*' a bit, but it was not done.
>
>char * pointer   ====>verbalizes as    char at pointer    which clearly
>states the concept.
>

They used '*' and pronounced it 'at' for the same reason that they
used 'mv' to 'rename a file' (as most people describe it)...so everyone
would a guru, thereby ensuring job security!

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pjh@mccc.uucp (Pete Holsberg) (11/17/89)

While we're on this silly topic, is "lib" pronounced to rhyme with "bib"
or "imbibe"?  Does "bin" rhyme with "sin" or "sine"?  And how do you say "etc"?

And who does it matter to??  ;-)

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mikes@rtech.UUCP (Mike Schilling(This sentence no verb.)) (11/17/89)

From article <4758@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>, by sft@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (scott.thompson):
> The way to pronounce '*' is "splat".

Splat it is, Kurt Vonnegut notwithstanding.  By the way, the British folks 
I worked with at a certain mass-transit project pronounced '!' as "shriek".  
This is not without charm.
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kenmoore@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore) (11/28/89)

In article <18197@bellcore.bellcore.com> tr@pcharming.UUCP (tom reingold) writes:

==>The way to pronounce '@' is "whirlpool".
==>
==>Tom Reingold                   |INTERNET:       tr@bellcore.com
==>Bellcore                       |UUCP:           bellcore!tr
==>444 Hoes La room 1H217         |PHONE:          (201) 699-7058 [work],
==>Piscataway, NJ 08854-4182      |                (201) 287-2345 [home]

Nope. Its pronounced at.

So kenmoore@unix becomes kenmoore at unix.

Sign me:

KK    KK  EEEEEEEE  NN     NN  MM       MM   OOOOO    OOOOO   RRRRRR   EEEEEEEE
KK   KK   EEEEEEEE  NNN    NN  MMM     MMM  OOOOOOO  OOOOOOO  RR   RR  EEEEEEEE
KK  KK    EE        NNNN   NN  MMMM   MMMM  OO   OO  OO   OO  RR  RR   EE
KKKKK     EEEEE     NN NN  NN  MM MM MM MM  OO   OO  OO   OO  RRRRR    EEEEE
KKKKK     EEEEE     NN  NN NN  MM  MMM  MM  OO   OO  OO   OO  RR RR    EEEEE
KK  KK    EE        NN   NNNN  MM       MM  OO   OO  OO   OO  RR  RR   EE
KK   KK   EEEEEEEE  NN    NNN  MM       MM  OOOOOOO  OOOOOOO  RR   RR  EEEEEEEE
KK    KK  EEEEEEEE  NN     NN  MM       MM   OOOOO    OOOOO   RR    RR EEEEEEEE

kenmoore@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L. Moore)

(Sorry about the long sig but inews won't recognize my .signature...  even with
a "chmod 777 .signature"! Tsk. Tsk.)

jje@virtech.uucp (Jeremy J. Epstein) (12/02/89)

In article <4081@rtech.rtech.com>, mikes@rtech.UUCP (Mike Schilling(This sentence no verb.)) writes:
> From article <4758@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>, by sft@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (scott.thompson):
> > The way to pronounce '*' is "splat".
> 
> Splat it is, Kurt Vonnegut notwithstanding.  By the way, the British folks 
> I worked with at a certain mass-transit project pronounced '!' as "shriek".  
> This is not without charm.

I worked with someone many years ago (hello Bob Knight) who insisted
that the "#" was called an octathorpe (which my edition of Webster has
never heard of).

Jeremy Epstein
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