[comp.unix.wizards] Reserving Space on Disk - Enough already

lm@snafu.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) (07/17/90)

(Martin Weitzel) (Chris Calabrese[mav]) (Eliot Moss) write:
>:> for (i = 0; i < FOUR_K; ++i)
>:>   write (fd, buf, ONE_K);
>:> [ ... ]

Can we please get this drivel out of unix-wizards?  Take it to unix-questions
where it belongs.  Please.
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Larry McVoy, Sun Microsystems     (415) 336-7627       ...!sun!lm or lm@sun.com

istvan@hhb.UUCP (Istvan Mohos) (07/19/90)

lm@snafu.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) writes:
>Can we please get this drivel out of unix-wizards?  Take it to
>unix-questions where it belongs.  Please.

Not to anger the great wizard, but the simplest solution of keeping
"this drivel" out of comp.sources.wizards would have been a preemptive,
authoritative answer to the first poster, about how to reserve disk
space without writing to the disk.

Because this is certainly not a "frequently asked question" and neither
does it appear to have an obvious answer (in fact no real answers were
forthcoming from anyone here), I for one, did think the question worthy
of the attention of this august newsgroup.  Apparently, my boundaries
of the imaginary "domain of wizardly topics" are in need of revision,
and I'd like to know if you could share your list of such topics that
receive your blessing.
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lm@snafu.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) (07/19/90)

In article <567@hhb.UUCP> istvan@hhb.UUCP (Istvan Mohos) writes:
>Not to anger the great wizard, but the simplest solution of keeping
>"this drivel" out of comp.sources.wizards would have been a preemptive,
>authoritative answer to the first poster, about how to reserve disk
>space without writing to the disk.

Fine.  Under all versions of Unix that use anything resembling the two
generic Unix file systems, i.e. BSD and SysV, this cannot be done in any
standard fashion.

Various vendors that provide realtime Unix systems have added this capability.
Even these implementations will end up writing control information to disk.

>Because this is certainly not a "frequently asked question" and neither
>does it appear to have an obvious answer (in fact no real answers were
>forthcoming from anyone here), I for one, did think the question worthy
>of the attention of this august newsgroup.  

I too would be interested in an answer to this question.  We've seen no
answer because there is no answer.  All we're seeing is a pointless
discussion of "Do 1 big write.  No, do a lot of little writes.  No, do a
lot of lseek/write pairs."  That discussion is concerned with basic Unix
(or non-Unix, for that matter) programming issues and is not appropriate
for this group.

Try and understand that I'm not trying to be inflammatory.  I'm trying to
keep the signal to noise in the group reasonable.  It's my belief that the
people that can provide signal aren't enthralled with noise.  I, for one,
would like to keep them reading this group since I need their help from
time to time.
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Larry McVoy, Sun Microsystems     (415) 336-7627       ...!sun!lm or lm@sun.com

willr@ntpdvp1.UUCP (Will Raymond) (07/21/90)

I think the wizard who posted his contempt for the drivel being spouted
in this newsgroup should provide us with a list of SAFE, ACCEPTABLE
topics to discuss.

BTW - Maybe we should have a new newsgroup comp.unix.wizards.dribble
Whoops...drivel


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