[comp.sources.wanted] source for troff -> versetec stuff

beattie@netxcom.UUCP (Brian Beattie) (12/31/86)

An artical reminded me that vcat was written
at U of Toronto and might be available to us
poor souls with out source licenses.  Does
anyone know if this is true and if so where
I might get a copy?

Thanx
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henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (01/02/87)

> An artical reminded me that vcat was written
> at U of Toronto and might be available to us
> poor souls with out source licenses.  Does
> anyone know if this is true and if so where
> I might get a copy?

Difficult situation.  Yes, vcat was written at U of T.  As far as I know,
it contained no licensed software and thus in principle there is no bar to
distributing it to non-source licensees.  However, there are about four
serious complications:

1. The U of T license form forbids commercial use, as I recall, although
	in the past this was generally interpreted to permit anything
	other than resale or fee-for-access public-access use.  I can't
	say what changes in the form or the interpretation have been made
	in recent years, since I stopped being involved with the software
	distribution apparatus at CSRG (now CSRI) quite a while ago.

2. I'm not sure the stuff is even still available; it's probably been a
	very long time since it was last requested.

3. Back in those days, non-source licenses were essentially nonexistent,
	so probably nobody ever paid attention to the licensing issues
	involved.  It is possible that the license agreement for that
	stuff demands a source license even though it's probably not
	strictly needed.  From what I recall, I very strongly suspect that
	the U of T distribution that included vcat also included a bunch of
	modified Bell software, in source form of course.

4. You probably do not want the ancient U of T vcat; Berkeley did not just
	copy it verbatim, they fixed bugs and adopted it to a modernized
	system (vcat was written for a mutated V6).  I believe they also
	did work on the fonts, and that's important:  given a description
	of the CAT output format from troff, vcat itself is not that hard
	to write, but supplying it with good fonts isn't so simple.
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