mellman@ttrdd.UUCP (06/04/87)
Is the korn shell in the public domain? Is there any way I can get sources for it? ihhp4!ttrdc!ttrdd!mellman
ark@alice.UUCP (06/04/87)
In article <180@ttrdd.UUCP>, mellman@ttrdd.UUCP writes: > Is the korn shell in the public domain? Is there any way I can get > sources for it? > > ihhp4!ttrdc!ttrdd!mellman No, the Korn Shell is not public domain. It is available, however, for sale through the AT&T "Unix System Toolchest". Source code is included -- in fact that's all you get.
guy@gorodish.UUCP (06/05/87)
> Is the korn shell in the public domain? Absolutely not! It contains a lot of code from the Bourne shell, which is AT&T licensed code. > Is there any way I can get sources for it? Yes, you can get a System V source license for some machine, get an account with the AT&T Toolchest, and buy it. (Don't ask me how this is done, I don't know.) Given that you're working for a part of AT&T, there may be other simpler ways of doing this, and then again there may not. Guy Harris {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy guy@sun.com
ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) (06/05/87)
No, you can get it through the AT&T TOOL CHEST though I think. I have a similar but different version of the Bourne shell (job control for systems that support it, EMACS-like editing, filename completion) that is a modifiction of the System V R2 /bin/sh (with it's shell functions). I'll give you a copy if you show me your SVR2 source license, or pick up a copy with the BRL release tape. It is also inclued with Doug Gwyn's system V package. -Ron
ark@alice.UUCP (06/06/87)
In article <20374@sun.uucp>, guy@gorodish.UUCP writes: > Yes, you can get a System V source license for some machine, get an > account with the AT&T Toolchest, and buy it. (Don't ask me how this > is done, I don't know.) To register with the Toolchest, get a 1200-baud CRT terminal, call (201) 522-6900, and log in as "guest" (no password). It will tell you how to proceed from there. You can browse to your heart's content without enrolling. To enroll, pick the proper menu items and you will eventually get a license agreement in the mail to sign and return. They used to charge an enrollment fee; I'm not sure whether they still do.
lyndon@ncc.UUCP (06/12/87)
In article <6957@alice.UUCP>, ark@alice.UUCP writes: > > You can browse to your heart's content without enrolling. To enroll, > pick the proper menu items and you will eventually get a license > agreement in the mail to sign and return. They used to charge > an enrollment fee; I'm not sure whether they still do. There is a one time fee of US$100, payable when you return the license agreement. After that, you pay only for the software you download. BEWARE that there is a hidden cost in all the packages! In addition to the fee for the source, you will be billed for the telecommunications (ie long distance) charges involved with the download (the ToolChest system calls your site to perform the transfer). In most cases, this fee will be insignificant compared to the cost of the source you are purchasing, however you can get a bit of a surprise - I purchased rogue for $75, and had to pay $52 (!) for the download. The ToolChest currently supports 1200 baud. They are threatening to upgrade to 2400 this summer, but I'm not holding my breath. It would be *nice* if the TC people included the communications costs along with the source costs. My only real complaint with the TC is the SLOW response in getting the initial agreement into place. It took over a month to get our copy of the license forms sent out, and an additional month to have the paperwork processed (I don't know if this is due to our being located in Canada). Once the paperwork is out of the way, the service is excellent. We ran into some problems on our first transfer. The TC technical staff were very helpful in debugging the link problems, and finally sent the stuff in the middle of the afternoon so I could watch the transfer (they usually call during late evenings). Support people are easy to reach by voice or email. Another suggestion I would like to make is that a copy of the current catalog be made available in "line printer" format. While it's nice to browse the menu system they have, I would rather tell it to dump the catalog without all the cursor control sequences. This could be saved into a local file to be printed later, saving substantially on my phone bills. Lyndon Nerenberg (Just another satisfied TC customer) Nexus Computing Corporation