[comp.sources.wanted] New Archive Site?

kip@arcadia.mi.us (Kip DeGraaf) (08/19/90)

Is anyone out there interested in seeing another archive site start up?

I've been asked to find out.  The configuration would start out as 4
gigabytes devoted to public domain software and archives of the major
source and binary groups.  Depending on the interests and needs of
the net community, this would grow.  The initial interface would be
via ftp, but mail server and uucp are possibilities.

I've also been asked to find out if archive servers/sites in general cause
problems for network adminstrators.  Do sites like Simtel20 and
wuarchive.wustl.edu (just to name two) cause heavy network loads that
adminstrators would rather not see.

Please send all replies and questions to stroup@cs.wmich.edu

mfc@medoc.ec.bull.fr (Matt.Caprile) (08/30/90)

In article <70@arcadia.mi.us> you write:
>
>Is anyone out there interested in seeing another archive site start up?
>
>I've been asked to find out.  The configuration would start out as 4
>gigabytes devoted to public domain software and archives of the major
>source and binary groups.  Depending on the interests and needs of
>the net community, this would grow.  The initial interface would be
>via ftp, but mail server and uucp are possibilities.
>
>I've also been asked to find out if archive servers/sites in general cause
>problems for network adminstrators.  Do sites like Simtel20 and
>wuarchive.wustl.edu (just to name two) cause heavy network loads that
>adminstrators would rather not see.

I don't have any facts on load statistics

I think that it would be a good idea to add another archive
server, the more the merrier. IMHO, the biggest plus would be
a server that kept the most up-to-date version of stuff, but
this implies ALOT more work than just collecting stuff.

a few ideas:
 a. mail & BFTP (Batch File Transfer Protocol) & uucp archive servers
    are less prevalent, and more needed [in my opinion]. Especially
    those that accept a request via mail for REMOTE files, does a
    Batch ftp transfer a 3 AM, and mails the reply back (uuencoding
    the file if necessary)

 b. the net could stand a bit of "order out of the chaos".
    - There are numerous ftp sites with duplicate entries, etc.
 	It is impossible to tell from the date of the file if it
 	is recent or not, since it might have been ftp'd recently
 	(uploaded), even though the version is a few years old.
    - It would be nice if an effort was made on a particular archive
      server to keep an up-to-date version of "packages". This would
      entail (among other things):
      + trying to contact the author(s) of packages to find out
	what the most recent version is, and only carrying that one.
      + to get a list of "packages" to carry, a good place to
	start would be the anon-ftp list that is mailed out
	about every month.
      + a good "organisation" on disk. I prefer organisation by
	type of product:
                             pub

                usenet    games   telecomm  mail    network
                  /         |       |        |        \ 
      comp.sources.sun    moria   uucp    sendmail    KA9Q
      comp.sources.unix   hack    kermit    elm       VMTP
      comp.sources.x              zmodem    mush       
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 	- 
 	- 

just my two cents worth....
matt caprile
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