[net.cooks] A new question: regional cookery

riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (11/02/83)

Many thanks to all of you who responded to my eggplant question.  There
were enough answers by mail and by news to keep me busy slicing oblong
purple things for months.

The response was so encouraging that I've decided to post another question.
This time, though, please post replies to the net: the goal is to stimulate
discussion, not to fill up my mailbox here on ut-sally.
 

THE QUESTION:  One of the nicest things about USENET is the way it is spread
across a very wide geographical area;  if you had to choose one regional dish
unique to your area to share with the rest of the net, what would it be?


To get the ball rolling, I'll contribute something that, to my knowledge,
can be found only at a single establishment here in Austin and nowhere else
in the world.  This is liable to draw fire above all from other Texans, given
the variety of cuisine which may be more representative of Texas (Tex-Mex
dishes, chili, barbecue, southern cooking, and what have you).  My only
defense of my choice is that I like it and that it seems to nicely combine
the various influences on Texas cookery.

My choice is the infamous Reality Sandwich of the Hole-in-the-Wall (opposite
UT on the Drag).  A Reality consists of a tasty chicken-fried steak on a
bun, topped (hamburger style) with lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles, mayon-
naise and (brace yourselves) jalapen~os and your choice of cheddar or swiss
cheese.  This is served too hot to handle on a bed of fries.  Lowbrow food
indeed, but damned good!
----
Prentiss Riddle
{ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddle
riddle@ut-sally.UUCP

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (11/03/83)

I can list yummies from two areas:

Evansville, Ind. : barbecue

Chicago area: deep dish pizza

do not, under any circumstances, order barbecue in the
Chicago area. It reeks.

			from the mildly opinionated keyboard of
			Dave Seifert
			ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert
			

rcj@burl.UUCP (R. Curtis Jackson) (11/04/83)

Most people (including the Eastern Airlines 'Review' flight magazine)
will tell you that Stamey's Barbecue in Greensboro, NC has the best
barbecue anywhere.  I tend to disagree, but it is DAMN good.

Gulf Coast: >Shrimp spaghetti at Frenchie's in Ocean Springs, MS
	>soft-shell crab po-boys (submarines to some,
	hoagies to others) at Lil' Ray's Po-boys anywhere
	along the MS Gulf Coast
	>Begnets (sp?) and Cafe du Monde coffee at the
	Cafe du Monde in the French Quarter in New Orleans
	>fried crab fingers at someplace on the beach in Destin, FL
	(sorry about that one)

Memphis, TN is supposedly the rib capital of the world.  Again, I
disagree with the ratings given to restaurants there such as The
Private Eye and (hmmm) the walk-down place adjacent to the Peabody
Hotel (can't remember the name right now).  If you want DRY ribs,
go to one of these places.  If you want good greasy flavorful ribs,
go almost anywhere in the southeast portion of Memphis.

The best steak in the world:  McClintock's on the Coast Road in Morro
Bay, CA overlooking the bay and famous Morro Rock.

Well, I've certainly rambled on enough.  Two last strange ones from
Florida:  smoked lisa (smoked popeye mullet), and breakfast there
can often consist of cold fried fish fillets from the night before
covered with pancake syrup.  Sound bad?  What about glazed ham,
lamb chops with mint jelly, syrup that gets on your sausage and bacon
when you eat pancakes, etc.  It is a nice contrast.

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bnp@ihldt.UUCP (11/04/83)

	The first thing that comes to my mind when I think of food
available in some places but not in others are Philadelphia style
cheesesteaks and hoagies. (Not submarines, grinders or torpedoes,
but hoagies!)

	A cheesesteak is a hot sandwich of thinly sliced beef, with
melted provolone (I think?) cheese.  A modification is the cheesesteak
hoagie which includes sliced tomatoes, shredded lettuce, LOTS of raw onions
and optionally, hot peppers.  It is served on a long hard Italian roll
and is invariably swimming in its own oil.

	A hoagie is a mixed cold meat sandwich, also served on a long
Italian roll.  The contents usually include several types of salami,
several types of spiced ham, provolone cheese, shredded lettuce, sliced
tomatoes, oil and optionally hot peppers. NO pickles!

	Again, this is low brow eating, but for anyone who has ever
spent time in Phila., its Heaven on Earth.  If you're ever in the area,
I would suggest Pudge's on DeKalb Pike (Rt. 202) just north of
Norristown, Pa.

			Why am I in Chicago?
				Bruce Peters
				...!ihnp4!ihldt!bnp
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, Ill.

keesan@bbncca.ARPA (Morris Keesan) (11/04/83)

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I think there are two foods which are quintessential to Boston and New England.

    1) Fish (or clam) chowder.  Made with hunks of fish, potatoes, and MILK
	(none of that imitation Manhattan stuff with tomatoes in it), and
	with lots of fresh-ground pepper and melted butter put in at the table.

    2) Indian pudding.  This is more specifically a Boston dish than a New
	England one, and the definitive indian pudding is of course that
	served by Durgin Park.  Indian pudding is basically a concoction of
	corn meal and molasses, cooked and served hot, but this simple
	description can't come close to capturing the flavor.

					    Morris Keesan
					    decvax!bbncca!keesan
					    ihnp4!wjh12!bbncca!keesan

pc@hplabsb.UUCP (Patricia Collins) (11/07/83)

	re: Philadelphia Cuisine

	Hoagies are a treat.  Two KEY aspects of The Hoagie which
	were not mentioned are:
		1. Seasonings: something like oregano and basil,
		with a little black pepper.  Add this to any
		sandwich and it's an improvement!

		2. Bread:  The Italian bread (not sourdough or French)
		should have a little of the interior bread removed.

		These two factors are essential to the Philadelphia
		Hoagie.

	As for Cheesesteaks... my mouth waters to remember them!
	Again, Italian rolls are a must.  However, the ones I
	remember had "smothered" onions, not raw ones.  (Smothered
	onions are lightly sauted onions, seasons slightly with salt
	and pepper, cooked in the same oil used to brown the steak.)

					Born and Raised in Philly,
						Patricia Collins
						hplabs
	

twt@uicsl.UUCP (11/08/83)

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uicsl!twt    Nov  7 23:54:00 1983

Everyone knows that Chicago is famous for thick-crust pizza, but I would like
to take this opportunity to plug my FAVORITE restaurant in the country.

There is a German at 17 west Adams St. in Chicago called Berghoff's.  They
make their own beer which is very good.  But my favorite meal is Breaded
Veal Cutlet (Weiner Schnitzel?), with German fried potatoes and YUM - creamed
spinach (and I do NOT like spinach).  Top it off with a glass of May Wine and
Black Forest Cake.  I live for the place.

Someone mentioned Clam or Seafood Chowder in New England.  Might I suggest
the Seafood Chowder at a placed named No Name.  It's on one of the piers, 
in Boston
VERY reasonably priced, not at all touristy and another place that even 
though I do not know when I again might go there, I look forward to my next
trip.  BTW, they do not serve liquor, so I suggest you stock up your cooler
with your favorite beer/wine.

In Lancaster County Penn., there is a restaurant called Good 'N Plenty.
I went there once with my folks and remembered it so well that the next
time (years later) I went through Penn I looked the place up.  I found
a pamphlet on it in a tourist information area.  They serve family style
meals of your basic chicken, beef etc. fare.  The food itself is rather
plain, by that I mean that the chicken tastes like chicken and the beef 
tastes like beef, without a lot of fancy stuff thrown in.  But the food
is very good and the prices are excellent.  I suggest going on a fast before
you head there.

These are the places I would go if I was where they are.

					Mary

I should know, I LOVE to eat.

donn@hp-dcd.UUCP (11/09/83)

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hp-dcd!donn    Nov  7 15:48:00 1983

On the issue of regoinal cuisines, Hawaii has more than just about anywhere.

I won't mention (directly) specific ethnic foods, which you would expect
from a place like Hawaii, but rather some Hawaii-only combinations.

Lunch in certain areas of Honolulu is an experience.  You are all aware
of the sandwich truck lunches found nationwide.  The Hawaiian version
is a bit different.  Its a panel truck with a hole in the side.  You
get a hot plate lunch typically like this:

	Main entrees (one of):	Beef Tomato	(Chinese)
				Beef Long Rice
				Hekka
				Pork or Beef Lau-lau (Hawiian)
				Stew		(American, more or less)
				Chili		(See below)

	Side dishes:		Rice		(indispensable)
			     or Macaroni salad	(American)
				
				Teriyaki beef	(Japanese)
				Kim Chee	(Korean)

	You get chopsticks unless you ask for a fork.

(I'm getting hungry.)

The chili in Hawaii would give a Texan fits, but if you treat it
as something distinct from Texas chili, is interesting in its
own right.  Its a bean-and-meat chili, but sweet.  It doesn't taste
hot, initially, but can delay for as long as 10 seconds (after swallowing)
before hitting you (often hard).  

My wife picked up a recepie for a (Japanese, I'd guess) stir fry
that consists of Kamaboku (fish cake), asparagas (sp?), and (take cover)
hot dogs!  Its actually quite good.

My stomach is now wondering what its doing in the middle of Colorado.

Donn Terry
...!hplabs!hp-dcd!donn

bnp@ihldt.UUCP (11/09/83)

	Someone recently mentioned Maryland and its crab/seafood
specialties.  If one is interested in MASS quantities of good,
simple seafood, I would recommend the "Chesapeake Bay Seafood
House" in McLean, Va.  This is in fact a chain of franchised
"all you can eat", seafood restaurants.
	The special thing here is the true "all you can eat"
nature.  When you purchase an all you can eat entre, you can get
seconds of that entre, or any entre that is equal to or less than
the cost of the original entre.  In addition, they had free
seconds of French Fries, hushpuppies, cole slaw and soft drinks.
Beer is available, but seconds are not free.
	Stories of entering and eating continuously for 2 or 2.5
hours are not uncommon!

			Bruce Peters
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, Ill.
				...!ihnp4!ihldt!bnp

wombat@uicsl.UUCP (11/11/83)

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uicsl!wombat    Nov 10 14:51:00 1983

Not as exotic as Hawaii, but here's the official Springfield, IL
sandwich -- the Horseshoe. It's your choice of meat (bacon, ham,
turkey, etc.) on toast, covered with french fries and all buried
under a win-cheese sauce. (Forget what everything represents, but
the fries are the nails.) The best ones are at Norb Andy's TaBarIn,
just a few blocks from the Capitol. Really good stuff.
						Wombat

usadaca@uiucuxc.UUCP (11/26/83)

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uiucuxc!usadaca    Nov 25 09:41:00 1983


best steak is a tie between a porterhouse at the Blue Ox
in Santa Barbara California and a KC Strip from the
Hereford House in Kansas City, Mo. For barbeque lovers,
try the barbeque at Zarda's in Blue Springs, Mo....
especially the burnt end sandwiches(with a COLD beer and
dill pickle). Other barbeque worth going back for....
little place in Indianapolis on Northwestern Ave. Sorry,
I don't remembr the name but it's heavy on hickory smoke
and pepper. For the best pro I mean pork chops, I
nominate Stevensons on Hwy 40 just East of K.C. Mo.
Best coconut cream pie   if you can get an invitation
to a Samoan families' supper in the San Francisco area..
you'll swear you've been drugged. I mean this stuff is
GOOD!!!! For a commercial establishment, try the Holiday
Inn Coffee Shop on 13th Street in Kansas City(baked by a
real dessert chef no less).