[comp.sources.wanted] tcsh *binaries* are also available

gerry@seq1.keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) (04/02/91)

the tcsh binaries for a range of machines/operating systems, in compressed
form, are available from a number of sites via anonymous ftp - at least 3:-

> irisa.irisa.fr                     131.254.2.3     NFF, TeX, iPSC2, tcsh,
> tesla.ee.cornell.edu               128.84.253.11   tcsh
> tut.cis.ohio-state.edu             128.146.8.60    GNU, tcsh, perl scripts

So if you just want to *use* tcsh get the binary, and the manual page, by
anon ftp from a site, put it in your path and use chsh to make it your default. This way you don't have to spend a lot of time patching/getting
the csh sources or take a load of crap from sys admin or whatever. 
Warning - once you start using the tcsh there is no way back -):

gerry

PS this is what happens at cornell for example:-

ftp> open 128.84.253.11
Connected to 128.84.253.11.
220 tesla FTP server (Version 4.128 Sun Feb 12 16:06:59 PST 1989) ready.
Name (128.84.253.11:guestftp): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> cd tcsh-5.20
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes).
total 2585
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student      3255 Feb 27 17:06 FAQ
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student      1306 Dec 14 17:00 README
drwxr-xr-x  2 christos student      1024 Dec 14 17:02 bins-5.20.00
drwxr-xr-x  2 christos student       512 Dec 14 17:01 bins-5.20.01
drwxr-xr-x  2 christos student      1024 Mar  9 19:55 bins-5.20.02
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    278524 Nov 14 22:30 diffs5.19.01-5.20.00.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student     35073 Nov 15 01:13 diffs5.20.00-5.20.01.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    121959 Dec 14 17:05 diffs5.20.01-5.20.02.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    399058 Nov 11 16:38 tcsh-5.20.00.tar.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    405039 Nov 15 12:28 tcsh-5.20.01.tar.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    429859 Dec 15 12:35 tcsh-5.20.02.tar.Z
-r--r--r--  1 christos student     29585 Dec 14 17:04 tcsh.man.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    430572 Dec 15 12:36 tcsh.reno-5.20.02.tar.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    430418 Dec 15 12:36 tcsh.tahoe-5.20.02.tar.Z
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> cd bins-5.20.02
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (0 bytes).
total 3384
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    144832 Dec 14 18:34 tcsh.Dynix_3.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    181250 Dec 14 18:30 tcsh.Dynix_ptx.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    141925 Feb 14 21:44 tcsh.att3b2-svr3.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    210409 Jan  8 20:00 tcsh.decstation-ultrix4.0.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    216085 Mar  1 10:52 tcsh.decstation-ultrix4.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    153730 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.hp9000s300-hpux7.0.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    154445 Jan 25 12:57 tcsh.i386-isc2.1.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    198911 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.ibm370-aixG9.9.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    180880 Feb  6 20:18 tcsh.iris4d-irix3.3.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    173005 Jan 24 07:40 tcsh.ps2-aix.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    155830 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.rs6000-aix3.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  2 christos student    379979 Jan 28 10:53 tcsh.sun2-sunos3.5.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  2 christos student    379979 Jan 28 10:53 tcsh.sun3-sunos3.5.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    138127 Mar  7 13:58 tcsh.sun3-sunos4.0.3.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    131933 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.sun3-sunos4.1.Z
-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    155562 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.sun4-sunos4.1.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos student    155157 Mar  9 19:55 tcsh.sun4.sunos4.1.1.Z
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.
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elliss@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Stew Ellis) (04/03/91)

gerry@seq1.keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes:

>the tcsh binaries for a range of machines/operating systems, in compressed
>form, are available from a number of sites via anonymous ftp - at least 3:-

>> irisa.irisa.fr                     131.254.2.3     NFF, TeX, iPSC2, tcsh,
>> tesla.ee.cornell.edu               128.84.253.11   tcsh
>> tut.cis.ohio-state.edu             128.146.8.60    GNU, tcsh, perl scripts

>So if you just want to *use* tcsh get the binary, and the manual page, by
>anon ftp from a site, put it in your path and use chsh to make it your default. This way you don't have to spend a lot of time patching/getting
>the csh sources or take a load of crap from sys admin or whatever. 
>Warning - once you start using the tcsh there is no way back -):

>gerry

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I am using the following one.
>-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    155562 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.sun4-sunos4.1.Z


On a Sun 4/490,chsh complains that this is not a proper login shell. Any 
explanation why not?

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src@scuzzy.in-berlin.de (Heiko Blume) (04/03/91)

gerry@seq1.keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes:
>-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    154445 Jan 25 12:57 tcsh.i386-isc2.1.1.Z

of course that should be ....isc2.2.1.Z. (christos, didn't you get my
mail about that??).
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jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron) (04/03/91)

>>>>> On 2 Apr 91 21:13:44 GMT, elliss@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Stew Ellis) said:

Stew> gerry@seq1.keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes:

[...More stuff deleted...]

Stew> [STUFF Deleted]

Stew> I am using the following one.
>-rwxr-xr-x  1 christos student    155562 Dec 14 17:01 tcsh.sun4-sunos4.1.Z

Stew> On a Sun 4/490,chsh complains that this is not a proper login shell. Any 
Stew> explanation why not?

You need to have the full path name of the file in /etc/shells

JC

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cca04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (P.J. Mitchell) (04/03/91)

From article <1991Apr2.211344.23204@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, by elliss@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Stew Ellis):
> On a Sun 4/490,chsh complains that this is not a proper login shell. Any 

You need to have tcsh put into /etc/shells so that chsh knows that it's
a bona fide shell.

Needless to say your sysadm is the person to see....

This is a security feature in SunOS 4+ I believe.
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guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) (04/07/91)

>You need to have tcsh put into /etc/shells so that chsh knows that it's
>a bona fide shell.

...

>This is a security feature in SunOS 4+ I believe.

It's a security feature in 4.3BSD; SunOS 4.x picked it up from there.