[net.cooks] "Food Processor" vs. Electric Mixer

phipps@fortune.UUCP (Clay Phipps) (02/23/84)

I've been watching the discussions of "food processors"
(sounds like something you might attach to the UNIBUS)
with some interest, because I think I might want one.
The postings make me wonder whether having a food processor 
completely eliminates the need for an electric mixer.  
I have neither.

In particular, I'm uncertain as to whether
a food processor can be used to whip egg whites into meringue.
I know from one aggravating experience that a blender
is no substitute for a mixer when whipping eggs.
Afterwards, I read in *Joy of Cooking* that blenders just won't do the job.
Would a food processor have worked ?

Are electric mixers used at all these days ?

-- Clay Phipps

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greg@olivej.UUCP (Greg Paley) (02/24/84)

I use a food processor, blender, mixer, spice grinder,
and meat grinder, all of which have overlapping 
capacities, but each of which seems better at certain things.

The blender chops and purees things more finely than the
food processor, but less so than the spice grinder.  Therefore,
I use the blender makes it good for mixed drinks
and finely pureed sauces such as green tomatillo sauce for 
enchiladas and Indian sauces and marinades.

The spice grinder (electric coffee grinder actually) grinds
to a fine powder, and is therefore ideal for Mexican and
Indian type spice mixtures (garam masala) and, of course,
coffee.

The mixer is great for cake and cookie batters, which can
easily get over-processed in the food processor.  It
can also, of course, beat egg whites.  I have had trouble
getting many Italian cake recipes to work properly in the
food processor which require long, slow beating.  For
these, the mixer is dandy.

There is a technique for beating egg whites in the food
processor.  It's detailed in Abby Mandel's "Cuisinart
Classroom" book and involves adding vinegar to the egg
whites, which is not supposed to affect the flavor of
the finished product.  I haven't tried it.


The food processor can mix and knead bread dough, chop 
large quantities of vegetables, and mix sauces.  As has 
been discussed here, these things can be done with knives 
and by hand, but take much longer.  Where it
is really unique is in being able to whip out things with a
mousse texture, such as quenelles, and making terrines and
pates.  You can make homemade mayonnaise in a food processor
within 2 minutes and be sure it will always come out perfect -
an often hazardous undertaking when done by hand (with a
whisk) or with an electric mixer.  If you do this, by the
way, expect to find yourself spoiled when you try to eat
store-bought mayonnaise again.

If I could only have 1 of these appliances, I'd keep the
food processor.

		- Greg Paley

patel@uicsg.UUCP (02/24/84)

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uicsg!patel    Feb 24 13:06:00 1984

"Whether having a Food Processor (FP) eliminates the need for an
electric mixer?"

Absolutely not.  FP does not aerate (introduce air bubbles) the food being
processed.  Egg beaters/ Hand mixers are specifically designed to aerate
the food.  From my experience the following is the application list.
I think for most part the applications are mutually exclusive.

Food Processor: Bread dough, pastry dough, slicing vegetables and fruits,
		Chopping, grinding nuts and seeds, making nut butters,
		Grating cheese, mayo and mustard spreads, humus, chutneys etc.

Hand Mixer: Egg beating, Egg whites, Whipped cream, cake and pancake batters,
            Mashed Potatoes.

Blender: Totally useless except for Milk Shakes.

Fruit and Vegetable Juicer: Carrots, Cukes, Celery, Tomatoes, apple,
                       	    pineapple etc.  But NOT oranges and grapefruit.

Orange Juicer: Orange and Grapefruit

   -Janak Patel, Coordinated Science Lab, Univ. of Illinois, Urbana.

ariels@orca.UUCP (02/24/84)

I may be old fashioned, but I think that food processors are just
another gadget.  I can't imagine making cake batter or cookie dough
in a food processor.  I cut my vegetables with a knife (though I'm
thinking of getting a chinese cleaver now that I've started doing a
lot of stir frys). I make bread by hand when I make it.  I use a
little hand grater made by the Mouli company in France to grate
cheese and anything else that needs grating.  Mouli makes a bigger
"food processor", non-electric, that I'm considering so that I don't
have to cut things up so small to put them in the hopper.  I whip
eggs and beat cream with a mixer (I also use a mixer for cakes and 
cookies).  I don't have a blender, but then, I don't make milk
shakes, so I don't miss one.

I think that electric food processors are too limiting.  You can
only cut things to the shapes and sizes allowed by the blades.  The
only use I've ever found for a food processor is grating the
potatoes for potato pancakes.

However, I'm a "make do" cook if ever there was one.  I just bought
a toaster after 3 years of toasting my bread on the burner of my
electric stove.

The kitchen "gadgets" that I wouldn't want to be without (in no
particular order) are:

An electric mixer
A garlic press
2 or 3 good knives
A cutting board
A cheese grater (but not the knuckle-eating kind)
A cheese slicer
A potato/carrot peeler
A set of wooden spoons
A rubber scraper
The usual contingent of pots, pans, woks, bowls, etc.

After all, people have been without electricity for the majority of
the species life on earth, and if they could manage it, so can I
(except for the mixer...if you've ever tasted a hand mixed cake made
by someone without arm muscles, you know why).

Ariel (mistress of make do) Shattan
..!tektronix!orca!ariels

pam@cepu.UUCP (02/25/84)

The only food processor that I know of that will beat egg whites or
whip cream is the Waring Food Processor.  You can buy a special attachment
to perform these functions.  The attachment is in two parts -- a thin
flat disk that fits over the center drive shaft (like the primary cutting
blade) and a plastic wedge that is inserted into the feed tube and 
hangs down almost to the bottom of the work bowl.  In operation,
the disk revolves, like a cutting blade, to whip the egg whites or cream,
and the wedge folds the liquid back onto itself to prevent it from
simply whirling around, rather than being whipped.  I've found that 
this works as well as an electric mixer and is a little faster.
I've heard that Cuisinart and other manufacturer's products will not
whip cream or egg whites, but I could be wrong since it is some
time since shopped these features.

Another unique, I believe, feature of the Waring is its unconditional
lifetime warranty on the motor -- that is, as long as you own the
machine, Waring will unconditionally guarantee the motor.  A disadvantage
to the Waring is that it will not take Cuisinart's "universal"
attachments for juicing, pasta, work bowl liners/storage containers and
does not have the larger work bowls and feed tubes of the mid to high
end Cuisinart models.  

I find that I rarely use an electric mixer any longer, other than
for mixing cake batter  for which the Waring work bowl is  too small.
I find that a small, inexpensive hand mixer works well for the tasks
for which I can't use my Waring.

mather@uicsl.UUCP (02/27/84)

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uicsl!mather    Feb 27 10:53:00 1984

A few months ago, I posted a questionaire here about food processors:
	Who has what in what price range? I will post results soon.

I ended up getting a La Machine II and have never regretted it! The egg
beating attachment is fantastic and I have made several kinds of cookies
with it (my favorite is FPed oatmeal cookies - but stir in raisins by hand!)

They make the best special breads (faster, easier, smoother!)

Dips are a snap (guacamole and all the other fixins for nachos!!!)

Grated cheese was NEVER NEVER NEVER so easy!

I recommend one (even if you are old fashioned) because I spend less time
fixin food and more time with my guests (or wife).

					Bruce Mather
					Le Maitre
					...uiucdcs!uicsl!mather

beth@umcp-cs.UUCP (02/27/84)

I'd like to add that an essential kitchen gadget, at least in my house,
is a wire whisk.  It's easier to clean than the electric mixer and great
for the little tasks.  But then again I use my blender for grinding coffee
and pureeing vegetables for some soups.  (I can't afford a food processor.)
-- 
Beth Katz, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, Computer Science Dept.
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topher@cyb-eng.UUCP (Topher Eliot) (02/28/84)

Seeing as how you can pick up a mixer on sale at Kmart for $8 or so, why
even bother wondering whether or not you should?  (Well, ok, if you have a
tiny kitchen, storage space is an issue.  But if it's that tiny, don't
sneeze or you'll blow out your windows.)  I rarely use mine, but
still consider it well worthwhile.  Plus, it can usually be cleaned by
spinning the blades under a stream of water -- no laborious disassembly.
-- 
Cheers,
Topher Eliot
Cyb Systems, Austin, TX
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