[comp.graphics] Need Kanji fonts

george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) (02/12/87)

Does anyone know of a North American source for machine readable
Kanji fonts, specifically the Level 1 set defined in JIS C 6226
(1978 or later)?  Preferably in bitmap form on 9 track tape.
-- 


Regards,

George Hart, Computer X Canada Ltd.
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edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (02/12/87)

In article <3993@mnetor.UUCP> george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) writes:
>Does anyone know of a North American source for machine readable
>Kanji fonts, specifically the Level 1 set defined in JIS C 6226
>(1978 or later)?  Preferably in bitmap form on 9 track tape.
>-- 

 If such a thing exists I'd be interested also. But then what about
 the kanas (hiragana and katagana ) ?

 Better yet are there any rom replacement chips for a pc character set?

 Mark
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george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) (02/13/87)

In article <1055@uwmacc.UUCP> edwards@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (mark edwards) writes:
>In article <3993@mnetor.UUCP> george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) writes:
>>Does anyone know of a North American source for machine readable
>>Kanji fonts, specifically the Level 1 set defined in JIS C 6226
>>(1978 or later)?  Preferably in bitmap form on 9 track tape.
>
> If such a thing exists I'd be interested also. But then what about
> the kanas (hiragana and katagana ) ?
>
> Better yet are there any rom replacement chips for a pc character set?
>
> Mark

If my understanding is correct, (at least) the most commonly used kana
characters are included in the standard.

An interesting thing is that the standard character set also includes
English, Greek, and Cyrillic characters.

I believe there are ROM kanji fonts available but I don't think that
you could just plug them into a PC card (if that is what you were
thinking of).
-- 


Regards,

George Hart, Computer X Canada Ltd.
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hurt@ci-dandelion.UUCP (02/14/87)

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In article <3998@mnetor.UUCP> george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) writes:
>In article <1055@uwmacc.UUCP> edwards@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (mark edwards) writes:
>>In article <3993@mnetor.UUCP> george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) writes:
>>>Does anyone know of a North American source for machine readable
>>>Kanji fonts, ...

Several Oriental fonts, including Kanji, are part of the Hershey
font distribution on mod.sources.

guy@gorodish.UUCP (02/17/87)

>If my understanding is correct, (at least) the most commonly used kana
>characters are included in the standard.

Yes.  (There are only 51 kana characters of each type, so I presume
all of them are included.)

>An interesting thing is that the standard character set also includes
>English, Greek, and Cyrillic characters.

They are all double-width, as are the kana characters (2 bytes, 2
character positions).  JIS 6220 contains the half-width (1 byte, 1
character position) forms of the kana.

edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (02/17/87)

In article <284@ci-dandelion.UUCP> hurt@ci-dandelion.UUCP (Jim Hurt) writes:
>Several Oriental fonts, including Kanji, are part of the Hershey
>font distribution on mod.sources.

  I got a copy of the distribution and was impressed by the list of 
  fonts it contained, but unimpress with the documentation.

  First let me say that I can't even spell graphics, or fonts (meaning
  that I know next to nothing about them). But I am willing to learn.

  I was thrilled to get the kanji and kana fonts, but I have no idea
  how to use them. The two programs contained in the distribution were
  of no help ( I know C , but not GKS ).

  Can anyone enlighten me ? Specifically what the hersehey fonts are,
  what the format of the data is and so on.

  Thanks in advance,
  mark


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edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (02/17/87)

In article <13460@sun.uucp> guy@sun.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes:
:
:They are all double-width, as are the kana characters (2 bytes, 2
:character positions).  JIS 6220 contains the half-width (1 byte, 1
:character position) forms of the kana.

  What's a JIS ?


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kwok@calgary.UUCP (02/18/87)

In article <3998@mnetor.UUCP>, george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) writes:
> 
> I believe there are ROM kanji fonts available but I don't think that
> you could just plug them into a PC card (if that is what you were
> thinking of).
> 

Summary: I have a set of Kanji in ROM for Level I of the 6226 set,
	 if anybody is interested.


Regards

Paul Kwok, Univ of Calgary

ph (403)220-3531

thom@hpfcdq.UUCP (02/19/87)

*** going with the base note drift ***
> What is JIS?
It is the Japanase standard designation.  It is the Japanese analog of an
ANS (American National Standard).

bayes@hpfcrj.UUCP (02/20/87)

Re Kanji JIS level I:

Having implemented a level II stroke driver years ago, I can say with some
assurance that ALL katakana and hiragana (nominally 51 each, actually there
are 3 or 4 missing from each), all upper and lower case Romaji (English
alphabet), many greek math and many punctuation/special characters are
included in Level I. Katakana and hiragana also contain connectives, 
diminutives, and repetitors; these are also in level I. Level II is a strict 
superset, and provides just barely enough kanji for a high-school level 
presentation. 'Course you can always "spell" missing Kanji with hiragana, 
but that's considered unkulturny. Foreign words are almost always spelled
with katakana.

Where ">" means "better than, in the eyes of a Japanese reader", and ">>"
means "much better than":

~12000 "standard" Kanji + ~2000 user-definable > level II > Level I
>> katakana or hiragana > ASCII

Above is a personal opinion. See a doctor if symptoms persist.

Scott Bayes - sometime speaker of Japanese
su-ko-tto be-i-zu (alpha phoneticization of katakana rendering of name. The
Kanji rendering I prefer is weird: lit. "rice-head")

bayes@hpfcrj.UUCP (02/20/87)

>/ hpfcrj:comp.graphics / edwards@uwmacc.UUCP (mark edwards) / 12:27 pm  Feb 17, 1987 /
>In article <13460@sun.uucp> guy@sun.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes:
>:
>:They are all double-width, as are the kana characters (2 bytes, 2
>:character positions).  JIS 6220 contains the half-width (1 byte, 1

Note that JIS C 6226 specifies 7-bit bytes, with the 8th probably reserved
for parity. So the address space is 2^14.

>:character position) forms of the kana.
>
  >What's a JIS ?

JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard (Committee)
Published by: 	Japanese Industrial Standards Committee
		1-24 Akasaka 4 Chome, Minato-ku
		Tokyo, 107 Japan

but the document I have (JIS C 6226) was published c. 1978.

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Scott Bayes