870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) (12/02/87)
We have all seen the kind of graphics the boys and girls at Disney can produce. My question is as follows, "What kind of eq. are these people using?" I must say that I am very impressed with the scale of their work in such movies as "Tron"(I know it has been out for a long time). If anyone has any info on these topics could you please respond. later Barry
jojo@astroatc.UUCP (Jon Wesener) (12/03/87)
I recently went to the latest animation tournee and there was
an entry from Disney. It was a computer animated short on 2 dogs made
out of junk living in a junk yard. The animation was pretty good, too.
I believe the credits said they loaned equipment from Pixar, although
I'm not positive, I am pretty sure.
Which reminds me, where is MY poor man's Pixar? Anyone heard
about the NEXT machine lately?
--j
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hating tomorrow's advertising, today.efo@pixar.UUCP (efo) (12/03/87)
In article <609@aucs.UUCP>, 870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) writes: > My question is as follows, "What kind of eq. are these people [Disney] using?" "Oilspot and Lipstick," the recent production from Walt Disney, was animated on a Wavefront system. Additional assistance was provided by a Pixar image computer.
mae%vygr@Sun.COM (Mike Ekberg, Sun {Graphics Product Division}) (12/03/87)
Pencils, Pens, Inks, Watercolors? Seriously, tho., I believe most of Tron was rotoscoped, that is live action (human beings) were shot, then selected parts of the scenes were colored by hand. The exceptions were the solar sailor and the grid bugs. But if memory serves, those scenes were not generated at Disney. Siggraph had a panel with a couple of Disney animators on it. One was a bit antangonistic about computer graphics, as he likes to draw by hand(Glen somebody) and they other was mildly for it(Frank(?) somebody, one of the 9(?) Old Men). I have a feeling some of the dogs-in-the-junk yard was computer generated, but I don't know how. Oh yeah, a couple of years ago, Disney did do an experiment with Synthevision(MAGI) about a dog in a house. I got the feeling the experiment was not considered successful enough to be used for the bulk of the work. Somebody at PIXAR probably knows the details. mike (sun!mae), M/S 5-40 "Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
leech@unc.UUCP (12/04/87)
Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Keywords: In article <35470@sun.uucp> mae@sun.UUCP (Mike Ekberg, Sun {Graphics Product Division}) writes: >colored by hand. The exceptions were the solar sailor and the grid bugs. But >if memory serves, those scenes were not generated at Disney. At III, who sold their computer graphics division (mainly the Foonly and their graphics software) to Omnibus in 1984. Omnibus of course was flushed down the loo recently. I don't know what happened to the Foonly. -- Jon Leech (leech@cs.unc.edu) __@/ ``Thus Mathematics helps / our brains and hands and feet and can make / a race of supermen out of us.'' - The Education of T. C. Mits
jru@etn-rad.UUCP (12/05/87)
In article <609@aucs.UUCP> 870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) writes: >We have all seen the kind of graphics the boys and girls at Disney can >produce. My question is as follows, "What kind of eq. are these people using?" ... I interviewed with their IMAGINEERING department early this year, and at that time they had almost no in-house graphics capability. They are thinking about developing it some day, but for now, they contract it all out to Industrial Light and Magic.
ewhac@well.UUCP (12/07/87)
In article <620@astroatc.UUCP> jojo@astroatc.UUCP (Jon Wesener) writes: > Which reminds me, where is MY poor man's Pixar? [ ... ] Check my .signature for your answer. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape ihnp4!ptsfa -\ \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: dual ---> !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Although there are technical differences between the quality of images created on the Amiga and on our system, we feel that viewers could be misled to believe otherwise, even with your disclaimers to the contrary." -- Ralph J. Guggenheim, Pixar
peterson@utah-cs.UUCP (John W Peterson) (01/21/88)
> > We have all seen the kind of graphics the boys and girls at Disney can > produce. My question is as follows, "What kind of eq. are these people using?" > I must say that I am very impressed with the scale of their work in such > movies as "Tron"(I know it has been out for a long time). At the time it was produced (~1981-82) Tron consumed the movie-quality animation resources of most of the country. Production houses like Robert Able, MAGI, Digital Effects, and Information International's film division all contributed to the project using a variety of equipment; mostly large mainframes and specialized film recorders. (All of these production houses are now defunct.) It's worth noting that much of Tron's animation was done by hand. Live-action footage was shot in black and white, the frames were blown up onto large transparencies, and shipped to the far east (Taiwan?) where a large crew painted them all by hand. The painted transparencies were then re-photographed on an animation stand ("colorization" before Ted Turner...) Cheers, jp