gaf@uucs1.UUCP (gaf) (10/13/89)
[ clip-n-save! ] Every now and then someone asks about X servers for DOS machines. As a public service, here are two commercially available products. We've used both, and they work fine on our 16 MHz AT's. You'll want lots of memory for them (a couple Mb of extended memory), but that's X for you. We use the Orchid ProDesigner Plus at 1024x768 (640x480 isn't very usable in X), and a "dumb" Ethernet card (3COM 3C503). I expect performance is better with a "smart" card, but it runs up the price of the system too much for us. Integrated Inference Machines makes X11/AT, which runs under Microsoft Windows. This means you can use any graphics card which comes with a Windows driver (just about all of them). Contact: IIM 1468 E. Katella Ave. Anaheim, CA 92805 (714) 978-6201 Locus Computing makes PC-Xsight. The latest version uses extended memory, which is a must (640K won't even run xcalc by itself). Contact: Locus Computing 9800 La Cienega Blvd Inglewood, CA 90301 (213) 670-6500 Both are about $400. I believe GSS in Oregon also make an X server, but have no experience with it. On a personal note, I heard from someone in the UK about another X server which runs under MS Windows. If he/she is reading this, please mail me more info (not e-mail, it's too treacherous). -- Guy Finney It's that feeling of deja-vu UUCS inc. Phoenix, Az all over again. ncar!noao!asuvax!hrc!uucs1!gaf sun!sunburn!gtx!uucs1!gaf
davis@udel.EDU (Michael Davis) (10/13/89)
In article <190@uucs1.UUCP> gaf@uucs1.UUCP () writes: > >[ clip-n-save! ] > >Every now and then someone asks about X servers for DOS machines. >As a public service, here are two commercially available products. >We've used both, and they work fine on our 16 MHz AT's. You'll want lots >of memory for them (a couple Mb of extended memory), but that's X for you. >We use the Orchid ProDesigner Plus at 1024x768 (640x480 isn't very usable >in X), and a "dumb" Ethernet card (3COM 3C503). I expect performance is >better with a "smart" card, but it runs up the price of the system too much >for us. > (more stuff deleted) I've seen lots of postings like this giving personal experiences with X products, has anyone collected them together so I can look at the +- of each package? As a side note, I'm looking into giving alot of old 6 Mhz AT's a new life by running X11 on them and using them as graphic terminals to our mainframes. Most of the things I've seen posted require full-blown powerhouses. Does anyone make a barebones X11 package that can run on a 6 MHz AT with expanded memory, 3C503 bds and various displays? Has any of the PC magazines (PC MAG, PC World, PC Week, etc) ran a review of X11 packages? Thanks Mike Davis (davis@louie.udel.edu) (128.175.1.3)
malcolm@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Malcolm Campbell) (10/18/89)
In article <190@uucs1.UUCP> gaf@uucs1.UUCP () writes: >I believe GSS in Oregon also make an X server, but have no experience with it. > >On a personal note, I heard from someone in the UK about another X >server which runs under MS Windows. If he/she is reading this, please >mail me more info (not e-mail, it's too treacherous). I may or may not have been this person... Nobody answered (well, OK.. one engineer answered about a beta test product) my queries about X for PC's so I didnt bother summarising what info I dug up. I am about to start a comprehensive evaluation of three or more X-PC servers. If people are interested, Ill summarise by e-mail, or if there is enough demand to the net. Let me know if you want the results. They'll be a week or two yet.. --- Malcolm.
rpeglar@csinc.UUCP (Rob Peglar x615) (10/20/89)
In article <1457@aipna.ed.ac.uk>, malcolm@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Malcolm Campbell) writes: > > I am about to start a comprehensive evaluation of three or more X-PC servers. > If people are interested, Ill summarise by e-mail, or if there is enough > demand to the net. Let me know if you want the results. > > They'll be a week or two yet.. > > --- Malcolm. Control Systems (ARTIST division) makes an X11R3 server that runs on the ARTIST TI12 graphics controller board, under DOS. The board has a TI34010 GSP on which the server code executes. The PC is then free to run the network (e.g. FTP Software's TCP/IP package for DOS boxes). Gives one 1280x1024 resolution at 4 or 8 bits per pixel. Shipping since mid-1989. Same package also runs under ISC 386/ix 1.0.6, and 2.0.x is being done right now. If anyone wants further info, please reply. Later, Rob
davel@vision.UUCP (Dave Lockwood) (10/21/89)
In article <1457@aipna.ed.ac.uk> malcolm@uk.ac.ed.cstr (Malcolm Campbell) writes: >I may or may not have been this person... Nobody answered (well, OK.. one >engineer answered about a beta test product) my queries about X for PC's >so I didnt bother summarising what info I dug up. We may or may not have been this company :-) Anyway, the product is available _Ex-Stock_. __Now__. Details have been posted to comp.newprod (moderator willing :-). Additionally, we have an automatic mail-response server to issue details. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * I I Dave Lockwood These opinions are shareware. * II Technical Consultant If you like them, send $10... * I * * * ** * davel@vision.UUCP VisionWare Ltd, * * * * ...!uunet!mcvax!ukc!vision!davel Leeds Business Park, ** ** +44-532-522020 X2439 Leeds, LS27 0JG, * * United Kingdom VISIONWARE DOS/UNIX Integration --------------------------------------------------------------------------------