[comp.graphics] SIGGRAPH'89 proceedings are late, but on their way

siggraph@arisia.Xerox.COM (Rick Beach, SIGGRAPH Editor-in-Chief) (10/17/89)

Each member of SIGGRAPH and subscriber to "Computer Graphics" will
soon receive their copy of the SIGGRAPH'89 proceedings along with
a copy of "Computer Art in Context", the full-color SIGGRAPH'89 Art
Show Catalog published in "Leanardo," the Journal of the Interational
Society for the Arts, Sciences and Technology.

The mailing has been delayed while we recovered from shipping problems
after the conference.  Over 2,000 copies were misplaced somewhere in
transit; we have recovered sufficent copies to satisfy our mailing
of approximately 13,000 copies.  Each copy will be boxed for safe
handling and will be mailed fourth class book rate.

Richard J. Beach
SIGGRAPH Editor-in-Chief
<Beach.SIGGRAPH@Xerox.com>

usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (10/17/89)

In article <3637@arisia.Xerox.COM> siggraph@arisia.Xerox.COM (Rick Beach, SIGGRAPH Editor-in-Chief) writes:
>
>Each member of SIGGRAPH and subscriber to "Computer Graphics" will
>soon receive their copy of the SIGGRAPH'89 proceedings ...
>The mailing has been delayed while we recovered from shipping problems
>after the conference.  Over 2,000 copies were misplaced somewhere in
>transit; we have recovered sufficent copies to satisfy our mailing
>of approximately 13,000 copies.

Those 2,000 copies must have went to bookstores.  I was a little upset
when a local bookstore reveiced copies before I, a SIGGRAPH member,
received mine.


Alan D. Cabrera
adc@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu

paulkle@microsoft.UUCP (Paul Klemond) (10/19/89)

It was announced at various panel sessions of SIGGRAPH '89 that the panel
session's discussion was being transcribed, and would be made available to
attendees.  I'm not a member of SIGGRAPH, but I'm very interested in the
transcripts.  Are they being mailed to attendees?

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herzog@dogwalk.Sun.COM (Brian Herzog) (10/23/89)

In article <8102@microsoft.UUCP>, paulkle@microsoft.UUCP (Paul Klemond) writes:
> It was announced at various panel sessions of SIGGRAPH '89 that the panel
> session's discussion was being transcribed, and would be made available to
> attendees.  I'm not a member of SIGGRAPH, but I'm very interested in the
> transcripts.  Are they being mailed to attendees?
> 

I was hoping Rick Beach would answer this, but PARC is still feeling the
effects of the big rock'n'roll, so here's a partial answer:

Yes, the panel sessions are being transcribed, and will be mailed out
to '89 papers/panels registrants and also (I think) to SIGGRAPH members
as soon as the transcribing/printing/etc. is complete, sometime before the
end of the year.  I don't know if they will be available for sale separately.
Rick should be able to give a more definitive ETA and distribution answer
once he's back on line...

Brian Herzog
herzog@sun.com

siggraph@arisia.Xerox.COM (Rick Beach SIGGRAPH Editor-in-Chief) (10/23/89)

[[Sorry, but PARC was off the air for a few days due to the Loma Prieta earthquake in Northern California.  This is a delayed response.  RJB]]

To clarify the situation, here are a few more details about shipping the SIGGRAPH proceedings.

1. The misplaced copies were the SIGGRAPH'89 art show catalogs; we have had lots of conference proceedings all along but we wanted to ship both in the same box.

2. The screw-up has been discovered -- a miscount of the shipment at the mailing house.  13,000 art show catalogs were shipped on 2 pallets of different sizes; the smaller pallet was counted and the number doubled, revealing that 2,000 copies were missing.  When the paper trail appeared to be normal, the count of indivual boxes was retaken -- oops -- a very embarrassed mailing house!!!

3. The mailing is underway with utmost haste.

4. The bookstore copies are from an arrangement with ACM Press and Addison-Wesley, who distributes the SIGGRAPH conference proceedings through booksellers.  I think the price is about $49.  And because they only distribute about 1,000 copies, obviously it can be done more quickly.

SIGGRAPH is acutely aware of the problems in shipping conference proceedings after the conference.  About 5 years ago, we switched to individual boxes to protect the heavy proceedings from damage during shipping.  After long delays two years ago, we switched mailing houses to one that could get sufficient labor to box and ship 13,000 proceedings.  Last year we got the proceedings mailed in a timely fashion (they still take a couple of weeks because we use fourth class postage in the USA).  This year, we go



t sidetracked because we wanted to ship 2 books (the proceedings and the art show catalog) together and it looked like we had lost 2,000 catalogs.  Grrrr...

Richard J. Beach
SIGGRAPH Editor-in-chief
<Beach.SIGGRAPH@Xerox.com>

sow@cad.luth.se (Sven-Ove Westberg) (10/23/89)

In article <3673@arisia.Xerox.COM> siggraph@arisia.UUCP (Rick Beach  SIGGRAPH Editor-in-Chief) writes:

|4. The bookstore copies are from an arrangement with ACM Press and
|Addison-Wesley, who distributes the SIGGRAPH conference proceedings through
|booksellers.  I think the price is about $49.  And because they only distribute
|about 1,000 copies, obviously it can be done more quickly.

The question is Sigrad should allow that A-W distributes the copies to
the bookstores before the members got their copies. The booksellers should
have their copies AFTER the members got theirs. I dont care if it was
only 10 copies, this is a matter of fairness.

Do you think that the members is pleased to see that the stores
got higher priority? It is as simple as this ACM says that
A-W has no right to distibute it to the booksellers before the
procedings has reached ALL members.

Sven-Ove Westberg, CAD, University of Lulea, S-951 87 Lulea, Sweden.
Internet: sow@cad.luth.se

elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) (10/23/89)

In article <1221@ulmo1.mt.luth.se> Sven-Ove Westberg <sow@cad.luth.se> writes:
>
>The question is Sigrad should allow that A-W distributes the copies to
>the bookstores before the members got their copies. The booksellers should
>have their copies AFTER the members got theirs. I dont care if it was
>only 10 copies, this is a matter of fairness.
>
Aw come on!  It's no big deal.  There is lots of other good graphics literature
about that you can catch up on while you wait.  The next thing you know you'll
object because people who go to the conference get a copy of the proceedings
earlier than all the other members.
-- 
Eugene Fiume
Dynamic Graphics Project
University of Toronto
elf@dgp.toronto.edu

beach@arisia.Xerox.COM (Rick Beach) (10/28/89)

Latest information: the proceedings will be mailed Nov 1.

Details: ACM is cutting the check to pay the postage (a big amount) and the shipment will be delivered to the US Postal Service early next week.  Expect delivery to take a couple of weeks.


Cheers
Rick Beach
SIGGRAPH Editor-in-chief