[net.cooks] What is achiote? annato seeds

richca@teklds.UUCP (Rich Caldwell) (03/12/85)

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Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
know how to use it.
.......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds
		       tektronix!teklds!richca

reid@Glacier.ARPA (03/13/85)

> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
> know how to use it.

Achiote (ah chee OH tay) is used for coloring things yellow.
It is the customary source of the yellow in "Natural" yellow Cheddar
cheese. It is cheaper than saffron. It has very little flavor of its own.
-- 
	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA

jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) (03/14/85)

> 
> **********************
> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
> know how to use it.
> .......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds
> 		       tektronix!teklds!richca

Annato is a natural source of vivid red coloring for food and has
no other particular use that I know of.
-- 
  

jcpatilla

"'Get stuffed !', the Harlequin replied ..."

phil@osiris.UUCP (Philip Kos) (03/15/85)

> Achiote (ah chee OH tay) is used for coloring things yellow.
> It is the customary source of the yellow in "Natural" yellow Cheddar
> cheese. It is cheaper than saffron. It has very little flavor of its own.
> -- 
> 	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
> 	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA

No, no, no - the yellow coloring in Cheddar cheese and many other foods
is not achiote but carotene (or sometimes "keratin" - same stuff, I
believe).

				Phil Kos
				The Johns Hopkins Hospital
				..seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!osiris!phil

alan@mtxinu.UUCP (Alan Tobey) (03/16/85)

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> **********************
> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
> know how to use it.
> .......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds
> 		       tektronix!teklds!richca


Achiote/annato is the traditional source of the coloring agent
that gives cheese that "real cheese" yellow-to-orange color.
(Compare English cheddar with New York State white cheddar for
the difference).  You can make a water- or oil-based extract
by heating annato in either for 5-10 minutes; watch the oil
so it doesn't get too hot and char the annato.  

It also has a mildly spicy and quite distinctive flavor.  Try
adding some of the extract to rice before cooking to get a sense
against a neutral background.  I use it as part of the mix
of spices I use in making refried beans: coriander, cumin,
ancho and jalapeno chiles, oregano, achiote.

		Alan Tobey / Mt Xinu, Berkeley

harmon_c@h-sc1.UUCP (david harmon) (03/16/85)

> > Achiote (ah chee OH tay) is used for coloring things yellow.
> > It is the customary source of the yellow in "Natural" yellow Cheddar
> > cheese. It is cheaper than saffron. It has very little flavor of its own.
> > -- 
> > 	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
> > 	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA
> 
> No, no, no - the yellow coloring in Cheddar cheese and many other foods
> is not achiote but carotene (or sometimes "keratin" - same stuff, I
> believe).
> 
> 				Phil Kos
> 				The Johns Hopkins Hospital
> 				..seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!osiris!phil

WHAT did you say?  I hate to tell you, but carotene and keratin are NOT the 
same thing.  Carotene is the yellow pigment found in carrots.  I think it can
be synthesized fairly easily, so it might be used for "non-natural" coloring.
Keratin, however, is the hard tissue which comprises the horns and hooves of
most animals, as well as human toe- and finger-nails.
			Dave Harmon
			harmon%h-sc4@harvard

tjj@ssc-vax.UUCP (T J Jardine) (03/18/85)

> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
> know how to use it.
> .......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds
> 		       tektronix!teklds!richca

Thought that I had seen this name before, so looked it up in ye old Webster
first.  Annatto is the name of a tropical American tree that yields seeds
that are used among other things to produce a red-orange dye.  In Spanish-
speaking areas of the Caribbean and Central Latin America the seeds are
called achiote.  The reference I remembered I found again in our Foods of
the World book "The Cooking of the Caribbean Islands".  The Puerto Ricans
apparently use achiote in a similar fashion to the Indian use of saffron.
An example given is creating a basis for sauces by stirring a small amount
of achiote into lard or oil until a vivid red-orange color is obtained.  The
achiote seeds are removed and such things as cilantro, sweet peppers, onions,
garlic, tomatoes, and salt pork are added.  Simmering these ingredients makes
a sauce called sofrito.  This sauce is the beginning of such dishes as asapao,
ropa vieja, and various vegetable dishes.  If you have access to the book I
mentioned, there are references on pages 38, 41, and 146.  I wasn't able to
find any more specific recipes than what I have indicated here.  Hope this
helps some.

Ted Jardine
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Boeing Artificial Intelligence Center
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clark@sdcsla.UUCP (Clark Quinn) (03/20/85)

> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?  We have a jar and don't 
> know how to use it.
> .......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds
> 		       tektronix!teklds!richca
> 

One other reference to achiote/annato seeds (besides the other posted
bits of information) comes from "Ethnic Cuisine: The Flavor-Principle
Cookbook" by Elisabeth Rozin (a very interesting concept cookbook, that there
are principle flavor combinations that characterize ethnic cuisines).

In it, she says
	One great regional variation (talking about Mexican food), that of the
	cuisine of the Yucatan, should be noted.  The same basic foods are
	used here as in the rest of Mexico, but influences from Europe, the
	Caribbean, and America gave rise to the unique combination of sour
	orange, garlic, and achiote.  

Later, in the Foreign Ingredients section, she notes that
	Achiote (annatto): a small, hard red seed used primarily as a coloring
	agent in both Mexican and Indian cooking.  Try to buy it already
	ground, but if not available, buy the seeds and grind them yourself.

	Adobo paste: small compressed squares of ground achiote, garlic,
	vinegar, and other spices.

The book is published by The Stephen Greene Press, Brattleboro, Vermont.

-- Clark


 Clark N. Quinn
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jeff@rtech.ARPA (Jeff Lichtman) (03/21/85)

> Does anyone in net.cooks land know what achiote otherwise
> known as annato seeds is used for?
> .......................Rich Caldwell richca@teklds

Annato seeds are used for coloring.  I believe they have no flavor.  They
are commonly used to give butter and cheese a yellow color.
-- 
Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.)
aka Swazoo Koolak