[net.cooks] Reply to Meg Mcroberts

lpm@lanl.ARPA (04/26/85)

Dummy that I am, I lost Meg's address, so this is a reply to her.  The
rest of you can skip it.  Sorry, all.


Meg,

Thanks for the reply.  I will try to answer some  of  your  yeast
questions.

I think that the second rise takes about  the  normal  length  of
time after I put it in the fridge.  Then, though, it almost stops
rising.  I think that it just takes that long to cool off, so  it
is  still warm while the rise occurs; I do not think it will rise
very much at 40 degrees F, or whatever your fridge temp.  is.   I
think  that  you  could  even  let  it rise the first time in the
fridge if it was nice and warm when you put it in.  But then  the
second rise would take longer, since it would have to warm up be-
fore it began to rise.  You could not let both rises occur in the
fridge;  after  the first one it would be so cool that the second
one would not happen (at least, not  very  fast).   I  guess  you
could  warm it up after the first rise, punch it down, and let it
rise in the fridge again, though.  Perhaps what you could  do  is
start  it  in the evening and let it rise once, shape it, and put
it in the fridge.  Then, the next evening (or morning if you were
home),  take  it out of the fridge, let it warm up while the oven
is heating (it will be risen), and bake it.  If it has risen  too
much,  you  will  have  to  punch it down and let it rise a third
time.  The third rising will give it a finer texture  anyway;  it
will  not  hurt  it a bit, although it might make the bread a bit
less sweet (not much).  You can also  freeze  bread  dough.   The
technique  is  to  let  it rise once and shape it; put the shaped
bread in the freezer.  Then take it out, let it  rise,  and  bake
it.   The Sunset Breads cookbook describes this technique, and it
works really well for rolls.  The rise  from  the  freezer  takes
longer, of course.

One other thing.  When I bake whole wheat bread and let  it  rise
in the fridge, moisture condenses on the top of the dough.  Water
on the crust makes the crust tough (like french bread),  and  the
whole grain crust is already tougher than white bread, so I get a
huge air bubble between the crust and the body  of  bread.   That
just  looks  odd is all, but be warned.  Oil on the crust tender-
izes it; perhaps brushing oil on it before the rise  would  solve
the problem; I have never tried that.

Play with rising conditions; it  is  almost  impossible  to  ruin
yeast  bread unless you get the dough too hot (do not let it rise
next to the oven vent when the oven is at normal baking temp's; I
have ruined two batches that way.)

Thanks for the info on cholesterol and  phosphorous;  I  had  not
even  considered the kidney stone problem.  My dog is 9 now, and,
though she still acts like a puppy, I want to think about keeping
her healthy.

Laurie McGavran