dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (07/22/87)
Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal
server so that an async host logs in as uucp across a telnet or
rlogin connection? I have my prejudices (a similar attempt across a TAC
several years ago failed miserably), but am required to try again.
Could someone who has done this successfully send me a description
of what they did?
Thanks,
--
Steve Dyer
dyer@harvard.harvard.edu
dyer@spdcc.COM aka {ihnp4,harvard,linus,ima,bbn,m2c}!spdcc!dyerbecker@rochester.arpa (Tim Becker) (07/22/87)
In article <202@spdcc.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: >Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal >server so that an async host logs in as uucp across a telnet or >rlogin connection? I have my prejudices (a similar attempt across a TAC >several years ago failed miserably), but am required to try again. >Could someone who has done this successfully send me a description >of what they did? Just set this up here. We connected our modems (and data switch lines) to the annex. The machines that want to initiate a uucp connection with us, get the annex prompt, send "rlogin <my_uucp_machine>", and then get a login/passwd prompt like usual. It's been working for 2 weeks so far (transferring *lots* of news/mail to multiple sites). What I wish I could do, is teach uucp how to talk to the annex so I could initiate uucp connections back out the annex. I think I'd have to teach uucp how to telnet (which I'm not currently ambitious enough to do). Has anybody got this working? Tim Becker. ..!seismo!rochester!becker
rhealey@ub.D.UMN.EDU (Rob Healey) (07/23/87)
In article <706@sol.ARPA> becker@rochester.UUCP (Tim Becker) writes: >In article <202@spdcc.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: >>Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal >>server so that an async host logs in as uucp across a telnet or >>rlogin connection? > >Just set this up here. We connected our modems (and data switch lines) >to the annex. > >What I wish I could do, is teach uucp how to talk to the annex so I >could initiate uucp connections back out the annex. I think I'd have to >teach uucp how to telnet (which I'm not currently ambitious enough to >do). Has anybody got this working? > Do you mean have the annex port act like a tty port from the Encore's point of view. Here in Duluth we set up our Max to communicate to 2 Lazerwriters by having the Max control them as tty's. i.e. ttyh1 would be printer #1 and ttyh2 would be printer #2. You treat ttyh1 and ttyh2 just the same as you treat physically wired tty's on other systems. I didn't do this myself but I can refer anyone to the person who did. Send me e-mail if you'd like to know more. -Rob Healey University of Minnesota, Duluth rhealey@ub.d.umn.edu <- 8 CPU MultiMax.
becker@rochester.arpa (Tim Becker) (07/23/87)
In article <700@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> rhealey@ub.UUCP (Rob Healey) writes: > Do you mean have the annex port act like a tty port from the > Encore's point of view. Here in Duluth we set up our Max to > communicate to 2 Lazerwriters by having the Max control them > as tty's. i.e. ttyh1 would be printer #1 and ttyh2 would be > printer #2. You treat ttyh1 and ttyh2 just the same as you > treat physically wired tty's on other systems. I didn't > do this myself but I can refer anyone to the person who did. Sounds like you have a computer made by Encore (not just the Annex). They have a device driver built into their OS (UMAX) that hides the setting up and tearing down of the connection to the Annex. I have 4.3bsd Unix, not UMAX. Would be handy if Encore would give away the code to do this... Tim Becker. ..!seismo!rochester!becker becker@cs.rochester.edu
joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) (07/23/87)
in article <202@spdcc.COM>, dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) says: > Xref: auspyr comp.mail.uucp:712 comp.unix.questions:3223 > > Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal server... I'm posting this for general interest... We have an Encore Multimax and annex here, along with a Pyramid 90x with no Ether board and manage serial UUCP connections as: pyramid ----calls-----> annex ----ether----> multimax The L.sys entry on the pyramid looks like: ausmax Any,10 DIR 9600 ttyi04 "" \r\c annex-BREAK-annex kill annex call\sausmax ogin:--ogin: auspyr\012\c assword: ANYPASSWORD\012\c Note that the above command sequence will "kill" any other jobs running on the annex port. We have other sites connected to the annex and they don't always terminate properly. On UMAX 4.2, you might not need the extra CRs and LFs, but you do with UMAX 5.2/5.3. Try it both ways. On the Multimax, you'll need to ''configure'' the annex port via /etc/na, you can "read" in this script: annex annex11 echo setting serial port parameters for port 16 set port=16 speed 9600 set port=16 data_bits 8 set port=16 stop_bits 1 set port=16 parity none set port=16 control_lines none set port=16 type hardwired set port=16 mode cli set port=16 forwarding_timer 1 set port=16 inactivity_timer 0 set port=16 login_timer N set port=16 port_multiplex N set port=16 allow_broadcast Y set port=16 input_flow_control none set port=16 input_start_char ^Q set port=16 input_stop_char ^S set port=16 output_flow_control none set port=16 output_start_char ^Q set port=16 output_stop_char ^S set port=16 long_break Y set port=16 short_break Y set port=16 attn_char ^@ set port=16 password "" set port=16 term_var "" set port=16 input_buffer_size 60 set port=16 bidirectional_modem N set port=16 newline_terminal N set port=16 leap_protocol_on N set port=16 echo Y set port=16 map_to_lower N set port=16 map_to_upper N set port=16 char_erase N set port=16 line_erase N set port=16 hardware_tabs N set port=16 erase_char ^? set port=16 erase_word ^W set port=16 erase_line ^U set port=16 redisplay_line ^R set port=16 toggle_output ^O Note, you'll need to change the port= number to whatever port you are using. Great machine! -- "Need input. Joe Angelo, Sr. Sys. Engineer @ Austec, Inc., San Jose, CA. More input. ARPA: auspyr!joe@lll-tis[-b].arpa PHONE: [408] 279-5533 Ahhh, input!" UUCP: {sdencore,cbosgd,ptsfa,dana}!aussjo!joe UUCP: {amdahl,lll-tis,imagen,necntc,dlb,sci,altnet}!auspyr!joe
joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) (07/23/87)
in article <706@sol.ARPA>, becker@rochester.arpa (Tim Becker) says: > Xref: auspyr comp.mail.uucp:714 comp.unix.questions:3229 > > In article <202@spdcc.COM> dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: >>Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal >>server... > > What I wish I could do, is teach uucp how to talk to the annex so I > could initiate uucp connections back out the annex... Why not trick UUCP instead of ''teaching'' it? If you are talking about a annex on a Multimax, then you can have UUCP access a device in /dev that speaks to an annex port that is connected serially to some other computer. All you need to do is create a remote_node and config the annex port for server (instead of client) mode... Then setup UUCP/{Systems,L.sys} to use the new device in /dev; something like: $ /etc/na set annex=annex_name port=port_number mode=serv $ mkrnod /dev/rty001 18 21 arp.address 3 port_number $ chown uucp /dev/rty001 $ vi L.sys anysys Any DIR 9600 rty001 "" "" in:--in: ... Read the man page on mkrnod(1M); it'll solve your problem. (You'll also need to ''config'' the annex port with the same parameters in my previous article.) Ps: I'm not an Encore Rep -- but I love the Multimax. Pps: Actually, Execelan has a similar method via the ud(EXOS) utility to work the other way. (Ie: it make's UUCP talk via rlogin(1) if uucp doesn't know what a TCP device is.). -- "Need input. Joe Angelo, Sr. Sys. Engineer @ Austec, Inc., San Jose, CA. More input. ARPA: auspyr!joe@lll-tis[-b].arpa PHONE: [408] 279-5533 Ahhh, input!" UUCP: {sdencore,cbosgd,ptsfa,dana}!aussjo!joe UUCP: {amdahl,lll-tis,imagen,necntc,dlb,sci,altnet}!auspyr!joe
dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (07/24/87)
In article <202@spdcc.COM>, dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: > Anyone ever managed to run UUCP across an Encore Annex terminal > server so that an async host logs in as uucp across a telnet or > rlogin connection? I have my prejudices (a similar attempt across a TAC > several years ago failed miserably), but am required to try again. For background, this was an Annex box without a Multimax in sight. However, the good news is that, as a number of people pointed out, that everything "just works". Apparently, the annex handles RAW mode/ Telnet binary negotiations correctly, at least when talking to a 4.3 VAX site. Shows that it often doesn't pay to be blinded by previous experience... Kudos to the Annex folks at Encore (this box has repeatedly impressed me at how invisible it is, which is as it should be.) -- Steve Dyer dyer@harvard.harvard.edu dyer@spdcc.COM aka {ihnp4,harvard,linus,ima,bbn,m2c}!spdcc!dyer