[comp.unix.questions] Need getting Kermit or Xmodem going between SUNos and APPLE II

peter@citcom.UUCP (Peter Klosky) (09/25/87)

We are trying to get an Apple II one of our people has at home to
send files over the phone to our Sun network running 3.2 Sunos.
We need to get kermit or xmodem going, we suppose.  It does not
look like the Sun comes with a communications protocol like
xmodem or kermit; does anyone know if it perhaps hidden in some
directory we've never seen or on some tape we have not read?
We don't think we can get uucp g protocol going on the Apple.
Has anyone heard of Smartterm, a Hayes product to run on the
Apple?  What protocols does it run?  What would you suggest we
do to get these two machines talking?   To retransmit our request,
let us say again we need retransmission in case of line noise.
-- 
Peter Klosky, Citcom Systems (materiel de telecommunications)
seismo!vrdxhq!baskin!citcom!peter (703) 689-2800 x 235

guy%gorodish@Sun.COM (Guy Harris) (09/26/87)

> We need to get kermit or xmodem going, we suppose.  It does not
> look like the Sun comes with a communications protocol like
> xmodem or kermit; does anyone know if it perhaps hidden in some
> directory we've never seen or on some tape we have not read?

The reason why it doesn't like as if it came with xmodem or Kermit is that it
doesn't; it's not hidden away somewhere.

The source to a UNIX version of Kermit is provided with the 4.3BSD tape, and I
think it is available by FTP if you can get somebody on the Internet to fetch
it.  It may be available in one of the source archives on UUNET as well.

The source to "umodem", which claims to implement the "CP/M User's Group
XMODEM" protocol as well as the "TERM II File Transfer Protocol (FTP) Number 1"
and the "TERM II File Transfer Protocol Number 4", also comes with the 4.3BSD
tape, and it is probably publicly available as well.

Check with any local sites that you know; they may have either or both of them.
	Guy Harris
	{ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy
	guy@sun.com

root@uop.UUCP (S. User) (09/28/87)

It is called sz (send x/z modem) and rz.  They were posted to the net (??).
They work with both the X and Z modem protocols.  I recommend Z-Modem since
it is more up-to-date.  It doesn't create files with mulitples of 128 bytes
and can send/recv multiple files at one go (and it works recursively-- I 
once backed-up my hard drive at 9600 baud by 'sz -r c:/* d:/* e:/* f:/*'
with 'rz -f' on the UNIX end...took a while, it did!).  Needless to say,
I have sources...I shouldn't have said that. :-)

G. Onufer
University of the Pacific