[comp.unix.questions] CSS Lab Motherboard + SCO Xenix 386

how@milhow1.UUCP (Mike Howard) (05/13/88)

Is anyone running (or know of anyone running) SCO Xenix 386AT
(system V 2.2.x) on a 'CSS Labs' 386 motherboard?

I am attempting to go from brain dead to 386 w/o killing my
piggie bank - one way to go involves replacing the mother in my
clone with one of these.

All assistance and war-stories will be appreciated.

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root@conexch.UUCP (Larry Dighera) (05/15/88)

In article <193@milhow1.UUCP> Mike Howard writes:
>Is anyone running (or know of anyone running) SCO Xenix 386AT
>(system V 2.2.x) on a 'CSS Labs' 386 motherboard?
>I am attempting to go from brain dead to 386 w/o killing my
>piggie bank - one way to go involves replacing the mother in my
>clone with one of these.
>Mike Howard
>uunet!milhow1!how


The newer version of the CSS Lab's '386 system-board that is able
to be populated with up to four MB of RAM is known to run SCO Xenix 386 without 
any problem.  This is a good choice for users who want take advantage of the
increased clock rate (their 16 MHz system is switchable 20 MHz too!) and the 
linear address space, at a reasonable cost.  CSS Lab's makes a very 
reliable and well designed product.  Unfortunately, they are experiencing
difficulty obtaining 1 MB RAM chips.  As a result, they will only sell
their systems with a maximum of one MB of RAM installed, but as a temporary
measure you can use your old 16-bit RAM expansion card.
 
Users who can afford a to spend a little more should consider the purchase
of a system that supports RAM caching circuitry.  CSS is due to release
their new caching system-board this summer.  They won't reveal what
size the cache will be, but for multiuser/multitasking operating systems that 
will be running many processes (thus requiring a good deal of RAM), a
large cache (on the order of 256 K bytes) is superior to the 64 K 
RAM caches currently available on most '386 system boards.  

Everex is the only manufacturer I am aware of that offers caching 
circuitry of this size.  

Disclaimer: I am both a CSS Lab's and Everex dealer.  I don't sell
other than that in which I have complete confidence.


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jack@turnkey.TCC.COM (Jack F. Vogel) (05/15/88)

In article <193@milhow1.UUCP> how@milhow1.UUCP (Mike Howard) writes:
>Is anyone running (or know of anyone running) SCO Xenix 386AT
>(system V 2.2.x) on a 'CSS Labs' 386 motherboard?
 
Mike,
	TCC is a close neighbor (geographically) to CSS Labs and we have
sold a couple of their systems to clients running Xenix386. Overall I have
high recommendations for their systems (or motherboards). Here are a few
items for consideration:

	1) The motherboard holds up to 4Meg with an 8Meg expansion board
	board available. They use 256X4 static column rams instead of simms.
	One problem with this is the shortage of chips at the moment, but then
	this applies to simms as well.

	2) If you specify that it will be running Xenix, they will burn the
	system in running Xenix. I know as I have visited the plant and seen
	the motherboards set up running shell script programs under Xenix386.

	3) The present released motherboard does not have caching, this may be
	a disadvantage but I am not totally convinced about that. I have been
	told by associates that the CSS 386 20Mhz empirically performs better
	than the Compaq 386/20 but this is just hearsay. It is certainly much
	less expensive. Sometime this summer CSS is said to be releasing a new
	motherboard that will implement the Intel cache controller and cache.

	4) The only difference between the 16 and 20Mhz boards are the rating
	of the CPU and a jumper on the motherboard. You could conceivably buy
	a 16Mhz version and later buy a 80386-20 and just change the jumper to
	upgrade to a 20Mhz version. This assumes, of course, that you insist
	on 80nsec ram on the motherboard (something which I recommend anyway).

Overall, I would recommend CSS. Sure, you could buy a 'hotter' system like the
Compaq 386/20 or the new Everex 386-20, but you will pay for the difference and
I have yet to be convinced that UNDER XENIX you are really getting your money's
worth. CSS is a very friendly company in my experience, they have gone out of
their way to help in problems and as I said, your system will actually run
SCO Xenix before it leaves the plant. How many others can say that??

Disclaimer: I in no way represent CSS, I am only a VAR that has done business
and is satisfied with their product.

					Hope this helps,



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