bicker@hoqax.UUCP (The Resource, Poet of Quality) (06/30/88)
> In article <166@skep2.ATT.COM>, wcs@skep2.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart.<ho95c>) writes: > > b) MKS has ported some UNIX tools and reimplemented others and is presumably > > following the rules for the products they use, This raises a question in my mind in light of all the talk about SEA suing PK Ware over the "look" of the archive tools. If SEA has a case doesn't AT&T? -- /kohn/brian.c AT&T Bell Laboratories Semantic Engineering Center The Resource, Poet of Quality ...ihnp4!hoqam!bicker (201) 949-5850 "It is useless for sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." - Wm. Ralph Inge, D.D.
wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (07/02/88)
In article <1624@hoqax.UUCP> bicker@hoqax.UUCP (The Resource, Poet of Quality) writes: >> In article <166@skep2.ATT.COM>, wcs@skep2.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart.<ho95c>) writes: >> >b) MKS has ported some UNIX tools and reimplemented others and is presumably >> > following the rules for the products they use, > >This raises a question in my mind in light of all the talk about >SEA suing PK Ware over the "look" of the archive tools. If SEA has >a case doesn't AT&T? It remains to be seen whether SEA has a case. They think so, obviously. I'm still not convinced that they base their case on look & feel, though. Reports quoted on the Net vary quite a bit as to what the issue really is. In any case, it seems to me that AT&T has chosen not to make look & feel an issue in the case of UNIX utilities: they have long ignored such UNIX look-alike products as Coherent, Idris, Minix, QNX, and even MS-DOS (DOS mkdir looks & feels a lot like UNIX mkdir to me :-)). It should also be reiterated what Alex White of MKS said recently: NONE of the MKS Toolkit utilities are PORTED -- they are all re-implementations, containing no AT&T source whatsoever. -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 DOMAIN: wnp@dcs.UUCP TLX: 910-380-0585 EES PLANO UD
david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) (07/09/88)
In article <132@dcs.UUCP> wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) writes: >It should also be reiterated what Alex White of MKS said recently: NONE of the >MKS Toolkit utilities are PORTED -- they are all re-implementations, containing >no AT&T source whatsoever. This also goes for Micro C-Shell. There is no AT&T code or Berkeley source to be found in any of the Micro C-Shell utilities. Everything is a "from-scratch" re-write. It would be nearly impossibly to move the actual UNIX source to programs like csh to MS-DOS anyway. -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.uucp) | "Yea I've got medicine..." as the Beckemeyer Development Tools | cookie cocks a his Colt, "and if 478 Santa Clara Ave, Oakland, CA 94610 | you don't keep your mouth shut, I'm UUCP: {unisoft,sun}!hoptoad!bdt!david | gonna give you a big dose of it!"