smithson@calma.uucp (Brian Smithson) (09/16/85)
In article <279@weitek.UUCP> mmm@weitek.UUCP (Mark Thorson) writes: >... >The project is Cheese Triscuit. That's right, Cheese Triscuit. So far, >Nabisco has had a damn good cracker called Triscuit. A few years ago, >they introduced a new form, Low Salt Triscuit. I propose that our project >be to force Nabisco to introduce another form of Triscuit, Cheese Triscuit. >... I can see why you didn't post to net.veg. Every good veg knows that Nabisco unnecessarily uses lard in their crackers (gag me with a former animal!), while Sunshine proudly announces their products as using "100% vegetable shortening". Really -- who would want another cracker from the same company who puts lard in "Vegetable Thins"? :-) -- -Brian Smithson Calma Company ucbvax!calma!smithson calma!smithson@ucbvax.ARPA
mmm@weitek.UUCP (Mark Thorson) (09/25/85)
Okay guys, let's test the power of the net. I've come up with a project that would be a perfect demonstration of the degree to which Usenet can affect the conduct of daily life in this country. We now reach 100K to 250K people with the network. Do we control the country, yet? Can we? We must have a project that is an adequate demonstration of our power. But at the same time, we must not bite off more than we can chew (otherwise we'll be demonstrating our LACK of power). The project is Cheese Triscuit. That's right, Cheese Triscuit. So far, Nabisco has had a damn good cracker called Triscuit. A few years ago, they introduced a new form, Low Salt Triscuit. I propose that our project be to force Nabisco to introduce another form of Triscuit, Cheese Triscuit. Imagine that. We can put a new product on the shelves of America. It might even be a good product, if Nabisco doesn't screw it up. If they make it as good as Cheez-It crackers from Sunshine Baking, we can be proud of the achievement. Of course they'll probably make something as wretched as Cheese Nips (just thinking about Cheese Nips makes me want to spit something out of my mouth). I want us Usenet junkies to be able to say to our grandchildren, "See that! See that box of Cheese Triscuit there! When Usenet and I were young, we put that there. We created that. The Usenet is strong! Don't mess with us." So let's begin a massive letter writing campaign. Thousands of letters from coast-to-coast. Computer-printed forms, hand-written scribbles from little old ladies, pen plotted simulations of hand-written scribbles from little old ladies, whatever you can come up with. JUST DON'T LET NABISCO KNOW ABOUT USENET. Mark Thorson (...!cae780!weitek!mmm)
barrys@hercules.UUCP (Barry Steel) (09/27/85)
What a GROSS idea! Who gives a **** about Nabisco crackers anyway? Dumb, very dumb... barry steel
levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) (09/29/85)
In article <24@calma.uucp>, smithson@calma.uucp (Brian Smithson) writes: >In article <279@weitek.UUCP> mmm@weitek.UUCP (Mark Thorson) writes: >>... >>I propose that our project >>be to force Nabisco to introduce another form of Triscuit, Cheese Triscuit. >>... >I can see why you didn't post to net.veg. Every good veg knows that Nabisco >unnecessarily uses lard in their crackers (gag me with a former animal!), while >Sunshine proudly announces their products as using "100% vegetable shortening". >Really -- who would want another cracker from the same company who puts lard >in "Vegetable Thins"? :-) >-- > -Brian Smithson Not only vegs but Jews who eat kosher are not enamored of this Nabisco practice. Triscuit, however, is lard-free, as are a (very) few other Nabisco products like their Wheat Thins, sugar wafers, and peanut creme patties. Blueberry and Apple Newtons are also lard-free, but not the original Fig :-(. Keebler is a similar offender. Supposedly the lard adds flavor, as well as often being cheaper. At least I have never met up with a potato chip fried in lard--that would be TOO MUCH. -- ------------------------------- Disclaimer: The views contained herein are | dan levy | yvel nad | my own and are not at all those of my em- | an engihacker @ | ployer or the administrator of any computer | at&t computer systems division | upon which I may hack. | skokie, illinois | -------------------------------- Path: ..!ihnp4!ttrdc!levy
floyd@brl-tgr.ARPA (Floyd C. Wofford ) (10/01/85)
In article <461@ttrdc.UUCP> levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) writes: >At least I have never met up with a potato chip fried in >lard--that would be TOO MUCH. >-- It is obvious that most of the anti lard types are not from the south or familiar with Amish or Mennonite style cooking. These use lard extensively (less prevalent in the more modern south). Lard is not cheaper, generally. Go buy a tin of Crisco then go to the dairy shelf for a pound of lard. There may be certain health advantages with using the vegetable products over the animal products but for people who are self sufficient, in the sense that they make the products they consume, you are apt to find shortening made from animal fats. Don't dare to visit the east, especially the counties just west of Philadelphia. These areas have a high concentration of the farming folk known as Menninites, Amish and Pennsylvania Dutch. The local potato chip makers create some of the most delicious potatoe chips, the best being fried in lard. The chips are crisper have much more snap and crunch and seem to keep fresher longer. This is probably a regional phenomenon since most of the major potatoe chip makers are the larger companies which must use the vegetable products for their cheaper price and mass appeal. The lard based chip is definitely a smaller demand product, but a very real product with a devoted following. floyd@brl.arpa
maloney@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (10/02/85)
/* Written 9:13 pm Sep 24, 1985 by mmm@weitek.UUCP in uiucuxc:net.cooks */ /* ---------- "We can change the world!" ---------- */ Okay guys, let's test the power of the net. I've come up with a project that would be a perfect demonstration of the degree to which Usenet can affect the conduct of daily life in this country. We now reach 100K to 250K people with the network. Do we control the country, yet? Can we? We must have a project that is an adequate demonstration of our power. But at the same time, we must not bite off more than we can chew (otherwise we'll be demonstrating our LACK of power). The project is Cheese Triscuit. That's right, Cheese Triscuit. So far, Nabisco has had a damn good cracker called Triscuit. A few years ago, they introduced a new form, Low Salt Triscuit. I propose that our project be to force Nabisco to introduce another form of Triscuit, Cheese Triscuit. Imagine that. We can put a new product on the shelves of America. It might even be a good product, if Nabisco doesn't screw it up. If they make it as good as Cheez-It crackers from Sunshine Baking, we can be proud of the achievement. Of course they'll probably make something as wretched as Cheese Nips (just thinking about Cheese Nips makes me want to spit something out of my mouth). I want us Usenet junkies to be able to say to our grandchildren, "See that! See that box of Cheese Triscuit there! When Usenet and I were young, we put that there. We created that. The Usenet is strong! Don't mess with us." So let's begin a massive letter writing campaign. Thousands of letters from coast-to-coast. Computer-printed forms, hand-written scribbles from little old ladies, pen plotted simulations of hand-written scribbles from little old ladies, whatever you can come up with. JUST DON'T LET NABISCO KNOW ABOUT USENET. Mark Thorson (...!cae780!weitek!mmm) /* End of text from uiucuxc:net.cooks */
krossen@bbncca.ARPA (Ken Rossen) (10/02/85)
In article <461@ttrdc.UUCP> levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) writes: > Supposedly the lard adds flavor, as well as often being cheaper. At > least I have never met up with a potato chip fried in lard--that would > be TOO MUCH. ---------- Well, they do exist ... travelling to my then-home in North Carolina, I found that the potato chips we'd picked up in a little roadside store somewhere, had lard as their shortening ingredient. I was pretty put off. I've never cooked with lard in my life, and I don't eat pig in anything any more unless I don't know about it. More depressing (somehow) was that the chips weren't bad at all. I've forgotten the manufacturer, but they were made in Virginia, and the bag called them "Country Style" potato chips. I found out what they were made with when checking the bag to see what made them different. *Sigh* ... next time I'll just stick to packing some grapes. -- Ken Rossen ...!{decvax,ihnp4,ima,linus,harvard}!bbncca!krossen ... or ... krossen@bbnccp.ARPA
marvinm@ttidcb.UUCP (Marvin Moskowitz) (10/03/85)
In article <279@weitek.UUCP> mmm@weitek.UUCP (Mark Thorson) writes: >Okay guys, let's test the power of the net. I've come up with a project >that would be a perfect demonstration of the degree to which Usenet can >affect the conduct of daily life in this country. We now reach 100K to >250K people with the network. Do we control the country, yet? Can we? > >We must have a project that is an adequate demonstration of our power. But >at the same time, we must not bite off more than we can chew (otherwise >we'll be demonstrating our LACK of power). > >The project is Cheese Triscuit. That's right, Cheese Triscuit. So far, >Nabisco has had a damn good cracker called Triscuit. A few years ago, >they introduced a new form, Low Salt Triscuit. I propose that our project >be to force Nabisco to introduce another form of Triscuit, Cheese Triscuit. ....... > >Mark Thorson (...!cae780!weitek!mmm) If you want us to get Cheese triscuits for you, Mark, you have to supply the address. Some of us netters aren't allowed away from our terminals without calling the guards to release the leg irons (=: Marv Moskowitz
jhs@druri.UUCP (ShoreJ) (10/03/85)
> ...JUST DON'T LET NABISCO KNOW ABOUT USENET!
Right, Mark. You can be sure the secret is safe
with all 250,000 of us! Mum's the word.
Boy, are WE going to surprise THEM! Hee Hee Hee Hee Hee Hee!suze@terak.UUCP (Suzanne Barnett) (10/08/85)
> > I was pretty put off. I've never cooked with lard in my life, and I don't > eat pig in anything any more unless I don't know about it. More depressing Lard does not necessarily come from pork. It can come from the fat of any animal. If one likes GOOD tamales (they only come in two varieties, GOOD and AWFUL, regardless of their type: meat, green corn, etc.) they must be made with lard. We generally use the can of grease saved from all broiling, frying or roasting meats. It is generally a mix of beef and pork lard. -- Suzanne Barnett-Scott uucp: ...{decvax,ihnp4,noao,savax,seismo}!terak!suze phone: (602) 998-4800 us mail: CalComp/Sanders Display Products Division (Formerly Terak Corporation) 14151 N 76th street, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) (10/10/85)
> > I was pretty put off. I've never cooked with lard in my life, and I don't > > eat pig in anything any more unless I don't know about it. More depressing > Lard does not necessarily come from pork. It can come from the > fat of any animal. ... tamales discussion ommited ... > We generally use the can of grease saved from all broiling, > frying or roasting meats. It is generally a mix of beef and > pork lard. What is lard? According to my Websters it is the fat of pigs. The word used to describe the fat of ~' bovines, lamb, etc.' is tallow. Looks to me like lard is restricted to pig fat. -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems 'If you can dream it, you can do it' Walt Disney This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)
ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) (10/12/85)
> > > > I was pretty put off. I've never cooked with lard in my life, and I don't > > eat pig in anything any more unless I don't know about it. More depressing > Lard does not necessarily come from pork. It can come from the > fat of any animal. If one likes GOOD tamales (they only come > in two varieties, GOOD and AWFUL, regardless of their type: > meat, green corn, etc.) they must be made with lard. > We generally use the can of grease saved from all broiling, > frying or roasting meats. It is generally a mix of beef and > pork lard. > -- > Suzanne Barnett-Scott When ingredients' lists say "lard" they mean pig fat. When they mean beef fat they say "beef fat." I've seen ingredients' lists that say things like "vegetable and/or animal shortening (hygrogenated soybean oil, cottonseed oil, lard, and/or beef fat)." Keebler generally uses beef fat and Nabisco generally uses lard when they says "animal shortening." I generally stick with Sunshine (all vegetable shortening) or Pepperidge Farms (veg. shortening and *butter*) when I haven't got time to make my own (butter).
barrys@hercules.UUCP (Barry Steel) (10/14/85)
In article <1818@orca.UUCP> ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) writes: > >When ingredients' lists say "lard" they mean pig fat. When they mean >beef fat they say "beef fat." I don't know what food processors "mean", but lard IS animal fat. Specifically, the fat that is not suet (the harder fat located around the kidneys). No assumption is made about animal type, although when referring to the fat of bovines, lard is used without further elaboration. barry steel
ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) (10/17/85)
> In article <1818@orca.UUCP> ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) writes: > > > >When ingredients' lists say "lard" they mean pig fat. When they mean > >beef fat they say "beef fat." > > I don't know what food processors "mean", but lard IS animal fat. > Specifically, the fat that is not suet (the harder fat located around the > kidneys). No assumption is made about animal type, although when referring > to the fat of bovines, lard is used without further elaboration. > > barry steel Read your Websters. Mine says lard is pig fat. Tallow is bovine or other generalized fat. Lard does not come from cows. Pigs are used to make lard. (It pains me greatly to do this, as I hate people who incessently call for references; but here I am doing it. Sigh. Life is cruel sometimes...) If you claim lard means anything other than purified pig fat, please state your reference. Mine is Websters. Thanks for bearing with me on this tedious point. -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems 'If you can dream it, you can do it' Walt Disney This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)