jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) (03/08/89)
Is there any document describing each entry in the "termcap" files? I.e. what all the commands really are.. -- _______________________________________________________________________ FidoNet : 1:135/20 ARPA/InterNet : jhom@umbio.miami.edu AlterNet : 7:48/20 uucp : uunet!gould!umbio!jhom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) (03/08/89)
In article <1469@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) writes: >Is there any document describing each entry in the "termcap" files? Yes, and if you look in the index of your UNIX manual you may even find it.
samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) (03/09/89)
RTFM 'man 5 termcap' Sam'l Bassett, Member of the Technical Staff, Sterling Software @ NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA 94345 Work: (415) 694-4792; Home: (415) 454-7282 samlb%well@lll-crg.ARPA Compuserve: 71735,1776
cs411s03@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Cs411s03) (03/09/89)
In article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov.UUCP (Sam Bassett RCD) writes: > > RTFM 'man 5 termcap' >Sam'l Bassett, Member of the Technical Staff, Sterling Software >@ NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA 94345 >Work: (415) 694-4792; Home: (415) 454-7282 >samlb%well@lll-crg.ARPA Compuserve: 71735,1776 Speaking of the 'man' command ... I recently purchased the 1.0.5 386/ix OS thru the deal which was mentioned on the net lately. I like everything I got, and the system looks like pretty vanilla SYS V, unfortunately no online manual is to be found. A few man pages were installed in /usr/catman when I installed the 2.0.2 Text Processing Workbench (DWB), but there are NONE for the OS itself, and the C compiler, system calls, etc. anyone out there have any ideas where these can be had ? Does AT&T have them for UNIX SYSV/386 ?
jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) (03/09/89)
in article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) says: > RTFM 'man 5 termcap' Is that "Read The Fine Manual" ;-) No kidding? I'm sorry if that's what you thought what I asked for. What I needed was a technical description of each entry and all the "acronyms" in there -- I know _what_ the termcap is. -- FidoNet : 1:135/20 (HST) ARPA/InterNet : jhom@umbio.miami.edu AlterNet : 7:48/20 uucp : uunet!gould!umbio!jhom --
daveh@marob.MASA.COM (Dave Hammond) (03/09/89)
In article <1471@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU writes: >in article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov says: >> RTFM 'man 5 termcap' > >Is that "Read The Fine Manual" ;-) No kidding? I'm sorry if that's what >you thought what I asked for. What I needed was a technical description >of each entry and all the "acronyms" in there -- I know _what_ the >termcap is. That's exactly what TERMCAP(5) (or TERMCAP(M) for SCO fans) describes! Under the "Capabilities" sub head there is a 3 page table describing each mnemonic, its type (int, bool, string) and a one line description. Following that is at least 10 more pages, of detail about termcap construction and specific implementation of several of the more esoteric capabilities. (I guess RTFM was the correct answer, huh? :-)). -- Dave Hammond daveh@marob.masa.com
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) (03/10/89)
In article <1471@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) writes:
-in article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) says:
-> RTFM 'man 5 termcap'
-Is that "Read The Fine Manual" ;-) No kidding? I'm sorry if that's what
-you thought what I asked for. What I needed was a technical description
-of each entry and all the "acronyms" in there -- I know _what_ the
-termcap is.
Jeezus, you turkey -- everyone tells you where to find the information
and you refuse to look?
UNIX Reference Manual section 5 applies to BSD-based systems; System V
would call that Manual section 4. Except, if you have a recent release
of UNIX System V you probably don't have a description of the obsolete
termcap facility. Instead, look under "terminfo", which gives the
termcap equivalents.bph@buengc.BU.EDU (Blair P. Houghton) (03/10/89)
Can't use his address for mail. Too bad :-) In <1471@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) writes: ><1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) says: >> RTFM 'man 5 termcap' > >Is that "Read The Fine Manual" ;-) No kidding? I'm sorry if that's what >you thought what I asked for. What I needed was a technical description >of each entry and all the "acronyms" in there -- I know _what_ the >termcap is. Hope you brought a fire-blanket, because those less gentle than I (and if you've never seen me post to talk.politics.misc, you've missed hyperbole that would shock Hulk Hogan and the Road Warriors) are going to flame you like there's no weemba. Section 5 of the manual deals with description of the format of system- installed files; it delineates syntax and semantics for everything from binaries such as the standard 'a.out' to manual pages themselves. The section that keeps popping up when you do 'man termcap' (note the absence of '5') is the page from section 3, the program-embeddable routines that pull termcap entries apart to be used for screen function. Seriously: type "man 5 termcap" and look down a screenful or two, and you'll see a big table of stuff just like you need. If you don't, someone has ripped you off by giving you a useless copy of section 5 of the manual. --Blair "...or a defective brain..."
jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) (03/10/89)
in article <9832@smoke.BRL.MIL>, gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) says: > Jeezus, you turkey -- everyone tells you where to find the > information and you refuse to look? I'm sorry and I apologize. It was just a little frustrating. I couldn't get any info from section 5 ("There's no reference to termcap" or something to that effect). I'll look under "terminfo" and someone sent me another suggestion. Once again -- I'm sorry. -- FidoNet : 1:135/20 (HST) ARPA/InterNet : jhom@umbio.miami.edu AlterNet : 7:48/20 uucp : uunet!gould!umbio!jhom --
mrm@sceard.UUCP (M.R.Murphy) (03/11/89)
In article <586@marob.MASA.COM> daveh@marob.masa.com (Dave Hammond) writes: >In article <1471@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU writes: >>in article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov says: >>> RTFM 'man 5 termcap' By now, folks might have figured that RTFM should be answered with RWFSOM or RWFSOM or MFVDSMASOFM. Give the guy a break and e-mail suggestions, not flames. Or don't you want to help a fellow user. Phooey. That's Read Which F Set Of Manuals What My F Vendor Didn't {Sell|Supply|Ship} Me Any Set Of F Manuals It's UNIX(tm). Sometimes you need to start by reading the Release 5 manual and working forward. If you don't have AllTFMs, then it's a pain. Again, give slack. Somebody's not a turkey 'cause they ask a question. --- Mike Murphy Sceard Systems, Inc. 544 South Pacific St. San Marcos, CA 92069 mrm@sceard.UUCP {hp-sdd,nosc,ucsd}!sceard!mrm +1 619 471 0655
tyager@apollo.COM (Tom Yager) (03/11/89)
In article <3416@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> cs411s03@uhccux.UUCP (Cs411s03) writes: >In article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov.UUCP (Sam Bassett RCD) writes: >> >> RTFM 'man 5 termcap' >>Sam'l Bassett, Member of the Technical Staff, Sterling Software >>@ NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA 94345 >>Work: (415) 694-4792; Home: (415) 454-7282 >>samlb%well@lll-crg.ARPA Compuserve: 71735,1776 > >Speaking of the 'man' command ... I recently purchased the 1.0.5 386/ix OS >thru the deal which was mentioned on the net lately. I like everything I >got, and the system looks like pretty vanilla SYS V, unfortunately no online >manual is to be found. A few man pages were installed in /usr/catman when I >installed the 2.0.2 Text Processing Workbench (DWB), but there are NONE for >the OS itself, and the C compiler, system calls, etc. anyone out there have >any ideas where these can be had ? Does AT&T have them for UNIX SYSV/386 ? No vanilla SysV system I've ever seen has man pages. SCO made them available for Xenix (one of the things I like best about that OS) when you bought the Text Processing stuff. They covered all sections of the user's, programmer's and system administrator's reference manuals. I assume the reason they were able to do this was that they produce their own manuals. A few tweeks, and a troff'ed manual page slides nicely through nroff. ISC doesn't provide manuals, and I don't know how Microport produces theirs (they ship their own, as well). Some third-party should buy a license for AT&T's docset and produce man pages from them. Since all the '386 Unixes will be the same soon (3.2), we could have a nice "one size fits all" docset on disk. (ty) -- +-Tom Yager, Apollo Computer Unix SysV R&D------------ARPA: tyager@apollo.com-+ | The opinions expressed here are -or- tyager%maxx@m2c.m2c.org | | probably not shared by my employer. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
A-N-Onymouse@cup.portal.com (John - DeBert) (03/11/89)
In article <1471@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> jhom@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Joe Homrighausen) writes: >in article <1571@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) says: >> RTFM 'man 5 termcap' > >Is that "Read The Fine Manual" ;-) No kidding? I'm sorry if that's what >you thought what I asked for. What I needed was a technical description >of each entry and all the "acronyms" in there -- I know _what_ the >termcap is. > I thought that by now someone would answer your query but I suppose that sometimes, people read faster than they can comprehend. (How does one read news at leisure, especially without Evelyn Wood?) I am having one hell of a time trying to set up a simple termcap for my HP terminal and the man/help files are of little help. As a last resort, I've sent away for the Nutshell book, "Termcap & Terminfo." Either you'll have to decrypt the man file (provided that you have it) or you could buy the Nutshell book, "Termcap & Terminfo," from O'Reilly & Associates. Contact uunet!ora!nuts for info. J DeBert A-N-Onymouse@cup.portal.com onymouse@netcom.UUCP [...!sun!amdahl!dlb!netcom!onymouse]