[comp.unix.questions] Where to get BSD docs?

buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) (03/20/89)

In article <9876@smoke.BRL.MIL>, gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) writes:
> memcpy() is decribed under MEMORY(3C) in most System V PRMs.
> bcopy() is described under BSTRING(3) in the 4BSD PRM.
> In case you don;t have BSD documentation (why not?), just swap

Where exactly does one get BSD documentation?  I was looking over
the order form for the Usenix manual set for 4.3BSD and was ready
to send in my money, but it clearly stated that they needed my
BSD license.  I have no current connection with a BSD licensee,
but often need the manuals for converting programs to System V.

Is this more AT&T marketing strategy to keep BSD from spreading
further?  After all, I can go into almost any computer bookstore
and buy the System V manuals.

Does Usenix not really require the BSD license, or is there an
alternate source of BSD manuals for the rest of us?

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gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) (03/20/89)

In article <383@siswat.UUCP> buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes:
>Where exactly does one get BSD documentation?  I was looking over
>the order form for the Usenix manual set for 4.3BSD and was ready
>to send in my money, but it clearly stated that they needed my
>BSD license.

I don't know why they used to think that.  The current word is that
you need only be a USENIX Association member.  The order form now
indicates that your obtaining copies of the manual is "pursuant to
the copyright notice as found on ... the UNIX/32V Programmer's Manual",
but I suspect USENIX and Howard Press will take your word for it;
they're not asking to see a copy of any license now.

>Is this more AT&T marketing strategy to keep BSD from spreading further?

Not so far as I know.  AT&T allows "fair use" of copies of documentation
at licensed sites.  4.3BSD is derived from UNIX/32V, which dated back to
the days of the "consent decree" that kept AT&T out of the commercial
computing industry.  For most purposes, AT&T has been willing to consider
UNIX/32V rights as being covered by more recent UNIX licenses such as UNIX
System V.  I doubt that the Telephone Police will bother you if you order
a set of 4.3BSD manuals.

rob@violet.berkeley.edu (Rob Robertson) (03/21/89)

In article <383@siswat.UUCP> buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes:
>Where exactly does one get BSD documentation?  I was looking over
>the order form for the Usenix manual set for 4.3BSD and was ready
>to send in my money, but it clearly stated that they needed my
>BSD license.  I have no current connection with a BSD licensee,
>but often need the manuals for converting programs to System V.

From what I understand USENIX recently got permission to sell the
manual sets to non-AT&T source licensees.  This is NOT fact the best
place to find out if this is true is USENIX.  Send a note to
uunet!usenix!office or office@usenix.org and they should be able to
tell you if this is true or not. 

rob
			  william robertson
		       rob@violet.berkeley.edu

			  io buffer away...

decot@hpisod2.HP.COM (Dave Decot) (03/21/89)

> >Is there a routine in the system V library analogous to BSD's bcopy().

While I'm sure someone will mention memcpy(), be cautioned that memcpy()
is not required to properly handle moves where the destination area
overlaps the source area.  bcopy(), on the other hand, is careful in this
situation.

Dave

jrp@rducky.UUCP (JIM PICKERING) (03/22/89)

In article <383@siswat.UUCP> buck@siswat.UUCP (A. Lester Buck) writes:
:Where exactly does one get BSD documentation?  I was looking over
:the order form for the Usenix manual set for 4.3BSD and was ready
:to send in my money, but it clearly stated that they needed my
:BSD license.  I have no current connection with a BSD licensee,
:but often need the manuals for converting programs to System V.
:

I just got a membership package from Usenix, and included therein is an
order form for 4.3BSD manuals.

	4.3BSD User's Manual Set (3 vols)	$25
	4.3BSD Programmer's Manual Set (3 vols)	$25
	4.3BSD System Manager's Manual (1 vol)	$10


jim




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