sr16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Benjamin Rothenberg) (04/05/89)
I recently spoke with someone who needs a large computer (a few hundred users, I think). He wants to run UNIX, but hasn't seen a single computer that's able to handle this number of users. The type of hardware he is thinking of is a VAXcluster - several VAXen sharing all peripherals- but he said DEC doesn't have Ultrix support for it. Does anyone know if there is a version for UNIX that does support this hardware? (The system he has now shares files over an ethernet, but is not the system of choice). Thanks in advance. Seth Please reply directly: sr16@andrew.cmu.edu
avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) (04/06/89)
In article <YYCGE2y00V4G43O58B@andrew.cmu.edu>, sr16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Benjamin Rothenberg) writes: > > I recently spoke with someone who needs a large computer (a few hundred > users, I think). He wants to run UNIX, but hasn't seen a single computer > that's able to handle this number of users. ULTRIX most definitly does support the HSC and CI hardware. This with the supported NFS included will probably give you what you want. Fred ---- NFS is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc. ULTRIX is a trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation
mchinni@pica.army.mil (Michael J. Chinni, SMCAR-CCS-E) (04/06/89)
In article <YYCGE2y00V4G43O58B@andrew.cmu.edu>, sr16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Benjamin Rothenberg) writes: > > I recently spoke with someone who needs a large computer (a few hundred > users, I think). He wants to run UNIX, but hasn't seen a single computer > that's able to handle this number of users. I would guess that he hasn't looked hard enough. At our site we have 3 Gould PowerNode 9080's. They are used for general office automation-type work. Machine configuartions are as follows: Users Disk Storage Capacity ----- --------------------- 257 2736 MB 631 4436 MB 748 4436 MB These systems are working fine with these configurations. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Michael J. Chinni US Army Armament Research, Development, and Engineering Center User to skeleton sitting at cobweb () Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey and dust covered terminal and desk () ARPA: mchinni@pica.army.mil "System been down long?" () UUCP: ...!uunet!pica.army.mil!mchinni /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
aad@stpstn.UUCP (Anthony A. Datri) (04/11/89)
==== I recently spoke with someone who needs a large computer (a few hundred ==== users, I think). He wants to run UNIX, but hasn't seen a single computer ==== that's able to handle this number of users. ==Users Disk Storage Capacity ==257 2736 MB ==631 4436 MB ==748 4436 MB ==These systems are working fine with these configurations. How many of those users are logged on simultaneously? I think that's what he's looking for. There have been PDP 11/70's with 1700 users in the password file, but certainly not all logged in at once. -- @disclaimer(Any concepts or opinions above are entirely mine, not those of my employer, my GIGI, my VT05, or my 11/34) beak is@>beak is not Anthony A. Datri @SysAdmin(Stepstone Corporation) aad@stepstone.com stpstn!aad
mchinni@pica.army.mil (Michael J. Chinni, SMCAR-CCS-E) (04/12/89)
=== I recently spoke with someone who needs a large computer (a few hundred
=== users, I think). He wants to run UNIX, but hasn't seen a single computer
=== that's able to handle this number of users.
==Users Disk Storage Capacity
==257 2736 MB
==631 4436 MB
==748 4436 MB
==These systems are working fine with these configurations.
=How many of those users are logged on simultaneously? I think that's what
=he's looking for.
system average users logged in at any one time
257 users 20
631 users 30-40
748 users 40-50
P.S. I'm not so sure that he is looking for a system that can handle several
hundred users at once. If he is, then I think that he will have a hard time
finding anything.
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Michael J. Chinni
US Army Armament Research, Development, and Engineering Center
User to skeleton sitting at cobweb () Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey
and dust covered terminal and desk () ARPA: mchinni@pica.army.mil
"System been down long?" () UUCP: ...!uunet!pica.army.mil!mchinni
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) (04/15/89)
In article <19099@adm.BRL.MIL> (Michael J. Chinni, SMCAR-CCS-E) writes: > > I'm not so sure that he is looking for a system that can handle > several hundred users at once. If he is, then I think that he will > have a hard time finding anything. It is my understanding that ARIX is one of the only manufacturers with UNIX models that will handle hundreds of simultaneous users. -- John E Van Deusen III, PO Box 9283, Boise, ID 83707, (208) 343-1865 uunet!visdc!jiii
littauer@uts.amdahl.com (Tom Littauer) (04/15/89)
In article <509@visdc.UUCP> jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) writes: >In article <19099@adm.BRL.MIL> (Michael J. Chinni, SMCAR-CCS-E) writes: >> >> I'm not so sure that he is looking for a system that can handle >> several hundred users at once. If he is, then I think that he will >> have a hard time finding anything. > >It is my understanding that ARIX is one of the only manufacturers with >UNIX models that will handle hundreds of simultaneous users. An Amdahl 5990-1400 with four engines, each ~60 VUPS (yes, its rubber ruler time again - insert usual disclaimers) running SysV native is handling this load for a number of our customers. Some of them are banging on us to expand the 1024 device limit so they can add more users/more disk (1.8 terabytes isn't enough). I apologize for the blatant commercialism, but I couldn't stand seeing all these little UNIX engines being called big anymore... -- UUCP: littauer@amdahl.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,ames,uunet}!amdahl!littauer DDD: (408) 737-5056 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 278, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 I'll tell you when I'm giving you the party line. The rest of the time it's my very own ravings (accept no substitutes).