[comp.unix.questions] PC/VI Wanted... Any pointers?

ked@garnet.berkeley.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) (04/21/89)

In article <306@dkstar.UUCP> jdb@dkstar.UUCP (Jon Bennett		) writes:
>
>	I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that wil
>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.

Mortice Kern Systems
35 King Stree North
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada N2J 2W9
519-884-2251
{allegra,decvax}!watmath!mks!toolkit

An excellent conversion of vi plus many other **IX tools.

ok@quintus.UUCP (Richard A. O'Keefe) (04/21/89)

In article <306@dkstar.UUCP> jdb@dkstar.UUCP (Jon Bennett		) writes:
>	I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that wil
>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.

"The Z Text Editor", Manx Software Systems, Inc., P.O.Box 55,
Shrewsbury, N.J. 07701.  (201) 542 2121.  [Taken from the 1986 manual.]

kattke@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Kattke) (04/21/89)

In article <306@dkstar.UUCP>, jdb@dkstar.UUCP (Jon Bennett) writes:
> 	I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that wil
> run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.

The user's manual for mine says:

Custom Software Systems
PO Box 551 M. O.
Shrewsbury MA 01545
617-842-1712

Jerry Kattke
ihlpf!kattke

gph@hpsemc.HP.COM (Paul Houtz) (04/22/89)

	>I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that wil
>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.

   MKS Tool Kit from Mortice Kern Systems.

kg@elan.UUCP (Ken Greer) (04/22/89)

From article <8301@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, by kattke@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Kattke):
>>I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that will
>>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.
> 
> The user's manual for mine says: Custom Software Systems ...

CSS went out of business a year or so ago.  Anyway, MKS has
one which we use internally and actually sell too.  It's $149,
available in the U.S. from...

		   Elan Computer Group, Inc.
		  888 Villa Street, 3rd Floor
		    Mountain View, CA 94041
		      Phone: 415-964-2200
		       FAX: 415-964-8588

jpn@genrad.uucp (John P. Nelson) (04/25/89)

>>	I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that wil
>>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.
>
>"The Z Text Editor", Manx Software Systems, Inc., P.O.Box 55,
>Shrewsbury, N.J. 07701.  (201) 542 2121.  [Taken from the 1986 manual.]

Yow!  Let me recommend AGAINST the "Z" editor from Manx.  While they
will sell it as a standalone package (it's normally bundled with their
compiler), it is EXPENSIVE to buy that way (cost as much as MKS vi, if
I remember correctly), and is nowhere near as powerful.  It is evident
that Z was compiled with a "small" memory model:  Editing is limited to
files about 32K or less in length, and is missing lots of features that
vi users will sorely miss.

     john nelson

UUCP:	{decvax,mit-eddie}!genrad!jpn
smail:	jpn@genrad.com

itwaf@dcatla.UUCP (Bill Fulton [Sys Admin]) (04/27/89)

In article <520@elan.UUCP> kg@elan.UUCP (Ken Greer) writes:
>From article <8301@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, by kattke@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Kattke):
>>>I am looking for a vendor that sells a version of VI that will
>>>run on an IBM/PC... 8088 based machine.
>> The user's manual for mine says: Custom Software Systems ...
>CSS went out of business a year or so ago.  Anyway, MKS has
>one which we use internally and actually sell too.  It's $149,
>available in the U.S. from...
>       Elan Computer Group, Inc.

Some comments from a guy who has used both CSS and MKS versions of vi:

I'm still using CSS vi, out of habit. I plan to convert to MKS vi, because:
  > I am very, very, (...) happy with the MKS Toolkit (vi PLUS many,
    many Unix software tools, including ksh!!!). Vi comes with the Toolkit,
    and interfaces well to the ksh in the Toolkit.
  > CSS is out of business. This degrades support.  :-)
  > The MKS imp is a good one, including a couragous attempt to interface
    to 'the shell', including filters.

If you go with MKS, I'd suggest the following:
  > Buy direct from MKS. In my experience, the support has been good
    to excellent. Also, they offer special support contracts, including
    guaranteed updates (which about pays for the maint contract).
  > Get the full 'Toolkit', not just the vi editor. MKS offers vi
    separately, or as a part of the Toolkit package. Skip a few lunches
    and spend the extra bucks on the full package!

A brief plug for MKS: The 'Toolkit' makes DOS damn near bearable. I've
done some pretty serious production and development work with this package.
Quality is 'reasonably good', support is very good.
I think this is quite relevant to this newsgroup - the editor, shell, and
utilities in the MKS Toolkit make it possible to keep a modicum of sanity
when you have to use both *nix and DOS. (There are other similar products,
but I haven't heard of one that comes close to the breadth of the Toolkit).

Bill ("vi or death") Fulton