weyrich@csun1.UUCP (Orville Weyrich) (05/11/89)
I have tried to get in touch with the ENIX folks, and my letter came back to me. Does anyone have a good address (e-mail preferred, of course)? Also, does anyone have any experience yet with using ENIX? The configuration I am considering using it on is: a 16-MHz 80386-based AT-clone (Goldstar Technology GST-386) which is built around a Micronics motherboard and which has an Adaptec 2372 RLL controller (1:1 interleave), Seagate ST-4096 hard drive, 1.2 Meg floppy, 8087 coprocessor, two standard RS-232 ports, two standard parallel ports, a CGA video board, 2-Meg of main memory, and AWARD BIOS version C3.03. -- Orville R. Weyrich, Jr. | UUCP : ...gatech!csun1!weyrich Department of Computer Science | INTERNET: weyrich@csun1.cs.uga.edu University of Georgia | Athens, GA 30602 USA | MA BELL : (404) 542-1082
madd@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Jim Frost) (05/15/89)
In article <178@csun1.UUCP> weyrich@csun1.UUCP (Orville Weyrich) writes: |Also, does anyone have any experience yet with using ENIX? The configuration |I am considering using it on is: | a 16-MHz 80386-based AT-clone (Goldstar Technology GST-386) which |is built around a Micronics motherboard and which has an Adaptec 2372 RLL |controller (1:1 interleave), Seagate ST-4096 hard drive, 1.2 Meg floppy, |8087 coprocessor, two standard RS-232 ports, two standard parallel ports, |a CGA video board, 2-Meg of main memory, and AWARD BIOS version C3.03. We set up ENIX about a week ago and have had several problems. First, ENIX comes with virtually no man pages, a serious problem to serious users. Second, the ENIX manuals are often incorrect or incomplete (one such case is the information on altering the key table which is both inaccurate and incomplete). Third, some packages (such as the X addition) are poorly implemented and may not include things which are generally considered "necessary" (such as xset). Additionally, we found that several of the ENIX disks were marked incorrectly (ie diskette "2 of 5" and "3 of 5" were actually two copies of "2 of 5"), making installation impossible. Some of these problems may be corrected as ENIX becomes more mature, but in general we were not impressed. We also have installed Interactive's 386/ix, which is in my opinion a better product at the moment. Neither ENIX nor Interactive would compile GNU Emacs configured for SysV (basically there were some problems with signals), and both gave an image which would dump core on some operations once it did compile. We haven't tracked down these dumps yet, partially due to the primitive debugging tools. ENIX and Interactive will run reasonably on a system with 4Mb core and 40Mb of disk; two megabytes might work but it won't work well. We are running ENIX and Interactive on 16MHz 80386 clones with 80Mb disk, 4Mb core, VGA, two serial (one dedicated to mouse), at least one parallel, and both work reasonably excepting the above. We are also running Xenix on a similar system with monochrome graphics, which works quite well. I hope this is helpful. If you need additional information feel free to contact me via email. jim frost madd@bu-it.bu.edu
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (05/15/89)
In article <31129@bu-cs.BU.EDU> madd@bu-it.bu.edu (Jim Frost) writes: >In article <178@csun1.UUCP> weyrich@csun1.UUCP (Orville Weyrich) writes: >|Also, does anyone have any experience yet with using ENIX? The configuration >|I am considering using it on is: >| a 16-MHz 80386-based AT-clone (Goldstar Technology GST-386) which >|is built around a Micronics motherboard and which has an Adaptec 2372 RLL >|controller (1:1 interleave), Seagate ST-4096 hard drive, 1.2 Meg floppy, >|8087 coprocessor, two standard RS-232 ports, two standard parallel ports, >|a CGA video board, 2-Meg of main memory, and AWARD BIOS version C3.03. Our setup is almost identical, except 5 meg, no 80387, and no RLL. >We set up ENIX about a week ago and have had several problems. First, >ENIX comes with virtually no man pages, a serious problem to serious >users. Enix comes with two levels of documentation. The first, and cheapest level, assumes you have the 9-volume Prentice Hall set of Unix SysVr3.2 manuals. All that's supplied are release notes. Everex will, for about $300 more, sell you what they call 'complete documentation', which is essentially the P-H set in Everex binders. The release notes, themselves, are OK in content but miserably laid out. The info here deals with hardware specifics, descriptions of new features (plus a good list of the Xenix-compatibles). Also tucked away here is other information which may not be on the P-H set, like how to create a distribution disk usable by 'installpkg'. >Second, the ENIX manuals are often incorrect or incomplete >(one such case is the information on altering the key table which is >both inaccurate and incomplete). Third, some packages (such as the X >addition) are poorly implemented and may not include things which are >generally considered "necessary" (such as xset). I can't speak about these. On our setup, installation and operation have been as expected with no surprises. We haven't had to remap keys or use X-Windows. >Additionally, we >found that several of the ENIX disks were marked incorrectly (ie >diskette "2 of 5" and "3 of 5" were actually two copies of "2 of 5"), >making installation impossible. That didn't happen here. >Some of these problems may be corrected as ENIX becomes more mature, >but in general we were not impressed. There is a new release coming out which is supposed to address some of the earlier concerns. BTW, it's now called OSIX, as SCO's lawyers thought Enix was too close to Xenix. We have been using our system for software development and as a medium sized Usenet node. No problems to date with anything we've compiled so far. I've also found the Everex technical people on the phone to be technically competent and quick to respond. PS. I've suggested followups to this go to comp.unix.i386. They've been debating some of these Interactive vs. 386/ix vs. AIX issues for some time. -- Evan Leibovitch, SA, Telly Online, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario evan@telly.on.ca / {uunet!attcan,utzoo}!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504 Scientists have proven conclusively: Research causes cancer in lab animals