nasa@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) (07/14/89)
In article <1989Jul4.233559.17107@eci386.uucp> woods@eci386.UUCP (Greg A. Woods) writes: > >As for being a good "word-processor", WP is severely limited in >scope compared to something like *roff, or TeX. > >Now, to really get up on my soap-box, I say that any reasonably >intelligent person can create better looking documents, in less >time, with less training, using troff or TeX, than is possible >with a "modern" word-processor. >-- > Greg A. Woods Where does TeX live? We have MicroTeX on the PC in the lab and would like it on the big VAX. I have found several documents that talk about TeX but none that say where an archive site is located. Thanks, Daniel Poirot nasa@killer.dallas.tx.us Lockheed C87 phone 713/483-2426 2400 Nasa Rd. 1 phax 713/483-6120 Houston, TX 77536 "A mind is a terrible thing."
chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) (07/14/89)
In article <8638@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US> nasa@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US (Daniel Poirot) asks: >Where does TeX live? We have MicroTeX on the PC in the lab and would like >it on the big VAX. I have found several documents that talk about TeX but >none that say where an archive site is located. Unix-specific (aha, proper newsgroup! :-) ) ports of TeX are available for a tape handling fee from the University of Washington. The current version of TeX is 2.9<something> and compilation is by converting the Pascal output from Tangle into C code; this process is considerably more portable than the original Pascal-compilation sequence. According to `finger': [cs.washington.edu] Login name: mackay In real life: Pierre MacKay ... For UnixTeX questions, call (206) 543-6259 -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163) Domain: chris@mimsy.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris
uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) (07/15/89)
From article <8638@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US>, by nasa@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US (Daniel Poirot): > Where does TeX live? We have MicroTeX on the PC in the lab and would like > it on the big VAX. I have found several documents that talk about TeX but > none that say where an archive site is located. UNIX TeX is located on: 1) Ohio State Univ. (osu-cis); 2) Washington Univ.; 3) probably - uunet. The first one is available for anonymous uucp. Additional info may be supplied upon e-mail request. Uri.
debra@alice.UUCP (Paul De Bra) (07/16/89)
In article <308@arnor.UUCP> uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) writes: >... >UNIX TeX is located on: 1) Ohio State Univ. (osu-cis); 2) Washington Univ.; >3) probably - uunet. The first one is available for anonymous uucp. > Great, now does anyone know if TeX lives somewhere on a mail-server? I know clarkson has some Tex stuff, but it doesn't seem to have it all. (doesn't have web2c for instance, as far as i know.) thanks. Paul. -- ------------------------------------------------------ |debra@research.att.com | uunet!research!debra | ------------------------------------------------------
gordon@prls.UUCP (Gordon Vickers) (07/17/89)
How to get TeX ? I asked USENET readers this question about a year ago and received the following useful responce : > From mips!ames!uw-beaver!june.cs.washington.edu!mackay Mon Nov 7 17:37:25 1988 > Received: by mips.mips.com; Mon, 7 Nov 88 17:36:27 PST > Received: Mon, 7 Nov 88 14:27:10 PST by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.59/1.2) > Received: from geops.geo.washington.edu by beaver.cs.washington.edu (5.59/6.12) > id AA13435; Mon, 7 Nov 88 04:29:44 PST > Received: by geops.geo.WASHINGTON.EDU (5.52.1/6.7) > id AA28655; Mon, 7 Nov 88 04:29:21 PST > Received: by june.cs.washington.edu (5.59/6.13+) > id AA09975; Sun, 6 Nov 88 23:08:16 PST > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 88 23:08:16 PST > From: mips!june.cs.washington.edu!mackay (Pierre MacKay) > Return-Path: <mackay> > Message-Id: <8811070708.AA09975@june.cs.washington.edu> > To: prls!gordon > In-Reply-To: Gordon Vickers's message of Thu, 27 Oct 88 15:49:48 pdt <8810272253.AA10469@pyramid.pyramid.com> > Subject: request ordering info for LaTeX > Status: R > > The base price for a full distribution of TeX, is $140.00 for 1/2 inch 9-track tapes, $165.00 for 4-track 1/4 inch cartridge tapes. This is for prepaid orders, sent within the Continental U.S., by UPS, surface routing, with delivery in eight days from dispatch. For shipping charges to other sites and for rush orders, see the table below. We can also accept purchase orders, with invoice after delivery, but there will be an extra charge of $10.00, owing to the invoice processing charges we incur. We are required to have written confirmation of orders (no phone confirmation) and we do not have fax facilities. Direct payment by wire can be made to UNIVERSITY of WASHINGTON Account # 002-138-0641 For: Northwest Computing Support Center, # 14-0449 in payment of UW INVOICE # ------------- Rainier Bank -- University Branch 1300 - NE 45th Street Seattle, WA 98105 U.S.A. Payment by wire also involves an extra charge of $10.00 to cover bank handling charges, but you do not need to pay the $10.00 invoice charge if we do not have to send an invoice. TOTAL costs, including shipping charges are: ----- (add $10.00 for invoicing or payment by wire) |-------|-------|--------|--------|---------------|-----------| | Local | Local | Canada | Canada | Overseas | Overseas | | UPS | DHL | UPS* |Airborne|Air Parcel Post|DHL Courier| |-------|-------|--------|--------|---------------|-----------| magtape |$140.00|$148.00|$140.00 |$160.00 | $160.00 | $170.00 | |-------|-------|--------|--------|---------------|-----------| cartridge|$165.00|$173.00|$165.00 |$185.00 | $185.00 | $195.00 | |-------|-------|--------|--------|---------------|-----------| *NOTE: UPS shipments to Canada only available to Province of Ontario and to metropolitan areas of Montreal, Vancouver and Victoria. Checks should be in U.S. dollars, payable to The University of Washington, (IRS Tax number 91-6001537) and sent to: The Director Northwest Computer Support Group, DW-10 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195 The normal distribution is a tar tape, blocked 20, 1600 bpi, on an industry standard 2400 foot half-inch reel. If you need 1/4 inch streamer cartridges, be sure to tell us. The 1/4 inch physical format is QIC-11, 8000 bpi, 4-track serpentine recording. We can send QIC-24 cartridges, but there will be a delay, since we have to make the master off campus and send it away for copying. QIC-24 orders may be slightly delayed while we get a new distribution master copied. We cannot write nine-track on cartridges, nor can we write TK50 cartridges for the DEC Microvax. SystemV tapes can be written in cpio format, blocked 5120 bytes, ASCII headers, but we prefer not to, since cpio format is extremely slow and wastes a great deal of tape on inter-record gaps. Again, please specify this format if you want it, and make sure which of the several QIC formats you can read. Most systems can read both QIC-11 and QIC-24, but very old systems can read only QIC-11, and some 3Bx s will only read QIC-24. The original organization of the distribution reflected the use of pascal for all compilations of TeX, TeXware, BibTeX, METAFONT and MFware. This has now been supplemented by a more convenient and more generally portable WEB-to-C compilation for TeX, TeXware, BibTeX, METAFONT and MFware (except for GFtoDVI, which is currently being rewritten by Donald Knuth). LaTeX and AMSTeX are macro packages processed by TeX, and do not require any further compilation. Current versions of standard programs in the distribution: (in the ./tex82 path) TeX 2.93 (implying the use of the new cm fonts.) (plain.tex version 2.92) LaTeX 2.09 (release of 26 April, 1988) (also SliTeX 2.09) tangle 2.8 weave 2.9 dvitype 2.9 pltotf 2.3 tftopl 2.5 metafont 1.5 gftodvi 1.7 gftopk 1.4 gftype 2.2 pktype 2.2 pktogf 1.0 bibtex 0.99c mft 0.3 (a formatting program for metafont source files.) also: (chtopx gftopxl pktopx pxtoch pxtopk --- but the use of these obsolescent pxl-related programs is discouraged) Various foreign language utilities, German, Greek, Portuguese, Swedish, and a first run of TeX-XeT for Semitic languages. Lots of other goodies of a generally similar nature. Fonts in tfm (TeX Font Metric) format. This is the format that describes fonts for TeX. It includes all useful information about font characters except what they will actually look like on paper. TFM format is size independent and device independent. and can therefore be used on any system that runs TeX. It will give you a valid DVI (DeVice Independent) output file, but will be of no use to give you readable hard (or CRT) copy output. Fonts in mf source format. The full Computer Modern as released from Stanford. Utility fonts for character proofs etc. (not made with cmbase.mf), LaTeX and SliTeX fonts are also supplied in mf source format. Fonts in PK format. This format produces characters that can actually be printed on paper. It is very device-dependent, and can therefore only be supplied for a small range of common output devices. All the standard shapes and sizes as declared in plain.tex, lfonts.tex, sfonts.tex and webmac.tex are here, in 118, 200, 240, and 300 PK(dpi) series. The 300dpi fonts are sent out in write-black and write-white flavors (CanonCX and Ricoh 4080). No provision is made for the global magnifications of LaTeX style files (such as bk11.sty). If your site needs these or similar magnifications you will have to run METAFONT to get them. The PK files for the principal LaTeX and SliTeX alphanumeric and symbol fonts are in a separate list. The Euler fonts (includes Fraktur) come in PK format only. (If you want [euler].mf source files, you should get in touch with the American Mathematical Society, which will make these available under license.) All these fonts may be converted to gf format (the format produced by the METAFONT program) by using the MFware program pktogf. Old METAFONT fonts. AMS fonts-- Cyrillc, and special symbols (created with old METAFONT-in-SAIL). Converted to PK format. There is no use in the mf files for these unless you are running a DEC10 or DEC20 with a SAIL compiler. Fonts in pxl format. No more. All the best drivers use gf or pk these days. If you really need pxl, you will have to compile and run pktopx. NOTE. for those who wish to go on using am series fonts, the files am_plain.tex, am_lfonts.tex and am_webmac.tex are provided. Drivers for dvi output. imagen(2 styles), qms(2 styles), LaserWriter (PostScript), LN03. These all produce intermediate files of one sort or another. Get in touch with Nelson Beebe Beebe@CS.UTAH.EDU if you need an HP LaserJet driver. Symbolics LGP, Ln01, Versatec. (These are all obsolescent, and are no longer maintained.) Compilation is now based entirely on Web-to-C, but the pascal compilation files have been left on the tape in compressed format (not updated). After about 6 months, they will be removed, unless there is some urgent reason for keeping them. Here is a partial list of successful compilations under Web-to-C: Sun-2, SunOS 3.2 (register variables may be ok here) Sun-3, SunOS 3.2 (no register variables), SunOS 3.4, 3.5, 4.0FCS Sun-4, SunOS 3.2-4, using cc -O, and SunOS 4.0FCS with cc -O4. Sun-386i under Sunos 4.0 Sun-3(280) using gcc 1-29. with optimization on all but tex4.c Sequent Balance, Dynix 2.1.1. Vaxen running 4.2, 4.3BSD, and Ultrix, using cc. Convex: Everything works, but -O breaks web2c itself, so don't use it when compiling that program; it's ok for TeX etc. Amdahl running UTS. Apollo, SR9.7 and SR10.0 (beta). Ridge 32 running ROS 3.5 and C compiler version 2.1B UNIXpc (aka 3b1 or PC7300) running System V version 3.51. MIPS R/1000, compiler version 1.21 Masscomp (not sure of model designation) Iris workstation. Celerity C1260, UNIX version 3.4.78, without -O. RT/PC running AOS(formerly ACIS)4.3; typedef unsigned char schar Still at the hacker stage but workable Interactive 386/ix Vers. 1.0.5, (System V Rel. 3.1) minor problems owing to a bug in the C compiler. (Special patch available) Tahoe Some problems with weave. ELXSI Encore The version of TeX produced through WEB-to-C is smaller, faster, tastier and altogether superior to the pascal compilation. It has the additional advantage that if your site needs a TeX with a truly gigantic capacity for boxes and macros, you can compile it under C. (UC Berkeley pascal puts a 16-bit limitation on array indices, which prevents this expansion.) It is genuine TeX, and passes the nefarious trip test in all respects. The above remarks are true for metafont, texware, BibTeX and mfware, and should ultimately be true for all programs written in the original form of WEB. C compilation has been successful on a wide range of Unix machines, and has become the only system fully supported in the UnixTeX distribution, but it is also likely to smoke out bugs in some C compilers on new systems just as the pascal compilation did for many versions of pascal. Since TeX is free public-domain software, just about everything that can be sent out in source form is included on the tape. There are no licensing restrictions, and only minor copyright restrictions as noted in the affected files. The site distributions of TeX are coordinated through the TeX Users Group (TUG) as part of the services of TUG to its members. We urge all users of TeX and METAFONT to join the TeX Users Group, to support and benefit from its activities---particularly the journal, TUGboat. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Call or write to: The TeX Users Group % % P. O. Box 9506 % Pierre A. MacKay % Providence, RI % TUG Site Coordinator for % 02940-9506 % Unix-flavored TeX % (401) 751-7760 % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ======================================================================== I have nothing to do with TeX so please don't ask me anything about the above, I'm simply reprinting the info. BTW, I did find that the single sheet of installation instructions to be wholly inadequate, in fact I still don't have TeX installed. After loading the tape and folling the instructions, the distribution managed to eat up a little more than 30 Meg bytes of disk. If I knew a bit more about what I was doing, I could probably delete several Meg of fonts. Gordon Vickers 408/991-5370 (Sunnyvale,Ca); {mips|pyramid|philabs}!prls!gordon