crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) (04/07/88)
HELP!! I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the IBM end). At the unix end I type set file type binary, and server. At the IBM end I type get filename. Kermit seems to manage the first 2 packets but then keeps retrying until it gives up. I've tried altering things like packet size and end of line character, but this hasn't helped. If anyone has successfully transferred binary files from unix to msdos using kermit, could they please mail me with the settings they used. Thanks Chris Rouch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- vax to vax (UUCP) CRouch@axion.bt.co.uk (...!ukc!btnix!crouch) desk to desk RT3124, 310 SSTF, British Telecom Research Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH, IP5 7RE, UK. voice to voice +44 473 646093 "Ours is not to look back, ours to continue the crack." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rk@cs.strath.ac.uk (Richard Kingslake) (04/08/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > >I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC >lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the >IBM end). > I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to MS-DOS via kermit. I always uuencode the files on Unix, transfer the files as ascii, then uudecode on MS-DOS. This always works. Of course, it assumes that you have uudecode available on MS-DOS. I do have such and will post it if requested. I got it from the net myself some months ago. Richard Kingslake -- Richard Kingslake JANET: rk@uk.ac.strath.cs ARPA: rk@cs.strath.ac.uk UUCP: !seismo!mcvax!ulcc!strath-cs!rk or rk@strath-cs.uucp
ens598@leah.Albany.Edu (Eric Sheffer) (04/10/88)
In article <914@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>, rk@cs.strath.ac.uk writes: > In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > >I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC > >lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 > >IBM end). > > > I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to > MS-DOS via kermit. I always uuencode the files on Unix, transfer the files On the UN_X end, try implementing kermit with the -i flag. It works for me. _______________________________________________________________________________ __ __ Eric Sheffer / / / \ ens598@leah.albany.edu / / / /\ \ Dept. of Geography and Planning / /_/ / _\ \ The University at Albany "No beach to walk on..." /_____/ /____\ _______________________________________________________________________________
zjat02@apctrc.UUCP (Jon A. Tankersley) (04/10/88)
I have successfully used Ckermit with ProComm(sp?) and a few others, even CMS kermit. A couple of things to watch out for. 1) some kermit implementation don't synchronize properly. Ckermit displays SF.....E(?) for a transfer. ?, Q, N are all miscellaneous error packets - N for Nack. If it doesn't get past the F it is probably a sync problem. Another problem is the translation character set. Kermit HAS to have the same ASCII translations. It uses an incremental character as a packet counter. 2) Try it out of server mode. Some server implementations don't work very well. A simple send/receive transmission might work. It isn't pleasant, but it gets the job done. CMS Kermit (old version) would often fail in server mode, getting 2 breaks in quick succession would drop CMS into CP mode, no ifs, ands, or buts. 3) try reversing the transfer if possible. 4) Get Xmodem,Ymodem,Zmodem for UNIX and the PC. They also work most of the time. -tank-
ns@maccs.UUCP (Nicholas Solntseff) (04/11/88)
I have never experienced any problems with kermit transfers between Unix
(BSD4.x) and MS-DOS. I use MIRROR with its VT100 emulator as the PC terminal
emulator.
TO perform MS-DOS to Unix transfer:
in unix type kermit -ir
in MIRROR type -- xk [d:] filespec
This will transfer ALL files with path [d:] filespec to the unix
default directory and use the MS-DOS file specs.
To perform Unix to MS-DOS transfer
in unix type kermit -is filespec
in MIRROR type -- rk [d:]
This will transfer all files from the default unix directory matching
filespec to the MS-DOS drive d: and use the unix file names.
Note: the kermit server mode is not being used here. I have had little
success using the server mode.
Nick Solntseff
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Nick Solntseff {ns@maccs.UUCP solntsef@mcmaster.BITNET}ballard@nosc.NOSC.MIL (Constance M. Ballard) (04/11/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: >HELP!! > > >If anyone has successfully transferred binary files from unix to msdos using >kermit, could they please mail me with the settings they used. > try setting parity even...worked for me...... coni
davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) (04/11/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: | HELP!! | | I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC | lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the Parity, I think... I run no parity on everything, but you might try: kermit -i -p n -s FILENAME # send 1 file mode - or - kermit -i -p n -x # binary server mode Your version of kermit may vary. You could also turn off parity in your login, using stty. -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
troeger@ttidca.TTI.COM (Jeff Troeger) (04/11/88)
In article <914@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> rk@cs.strath.ac.uk writes: >In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: >>I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC >>lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the >>IBM end). >I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to >MS-DOS via kermit. I always uuencode the files on Unix, transfer the files >as ascii, then uudecode on MS-DOS. This always works. Of course, it >assumes that you have uudecode available on MS-DOS. I do have such and >will post it if requested. I got it from the net myself some months ago. > I have been downloading binary files using kermit for > 5 years now without any problems. Chris's problem is with trying to use the "get" command while in server mode. The command to use should be "receive" if you are going to use the server. For binary files you also need to specify the -i switch when invoking kermit, or setting the file type to binary when in the interactive mode. (. (. (. This (. is (. to satisfy rn (. with (. having less new text (. than old text (. (. (. (. (. (. (. (. -- Jeff Troeger Citicorp(+)TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. (213) 450-9111, ext. 3153 Santa Monica, CA 90405 {philabs,randvax,trwrb,csun}!ttidca!ttidcb!troeger
dwm@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Meeks) (04/11/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP>, crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > HELP!! > > I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC > lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the > IBM end). At the unix end I type set file type binary, and server. At the IBM > end I type get filename. Kermit seems to manage the first 2 packets but then > keeps retrying until it gives up. I've tried altering things like packet size > and end of line character, but this hasn't helped. > > If anyone has successfully transferred binary files from unix to msdos using > kermit, could they please mail me with the settings they used. > > Thanks > > Chris Rouch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would first check that the parity and other stty like settings on both are set correctly; parity must be the same even if it is not used on the UNIX system. This has been the only problem I have ever had and I have transfered binary files between UNIX, DOS and CPM systems with Kermit. ______________/----------\______________ / \ / ========================================== / _______________________________________/ _______________________ / (______________________() / Daniel W. Meeks \ /___________ / ([ihnp4!]ihlpf!dwm ) / ( / ``MAN'S MIND, ONCE STRETCHED --------------- / BY A NEW IDEA ... NEVER REGAINS )______________/ ITS ORIGINAL DIMENSIONS.'' * Unsure the origin of the quote though it came from a mug given by the people at ``SYMBOLICS, Inc. the leaders in symbolic computing.''
dave@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (David A Rasmussen,EMS E380,5133,) (04/12/88)
From article <619@nosc.NOSC.MIL>, by ballard@nosc.NOSC.MIL (Constance M. Ballard):
# In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes:
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Also helps to have image mode on :-)
Dave Rasmussen c/o Computing Services Division @ U of WI - Milwaukee
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ICBM: 43 4 58 N/ 87 55 52 W Usnail: 3200 N Cramer #E380, Milw WI 53211mpatnode@polyslo.UUCP (Mike Patnode) (04/12/88)
>In article <914@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>, rk@cs.strath.ac.uk writes: >> In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: >> >I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC >> I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to >> MS-DOS via kermit. I always uuencode the files on Unix, transfer the files > Try: C-Kermit set file type binary set parity even MS-DOS side set parity even get * I've found C-Kermit really likes to have parity set to even and it must be done that way on both sides. Good Luck. -- Mike "Dodger" Patnode | (n) ..csustan!polyslo!mpatnode Yitbos Innovations Inc. | (s) ..sdsu!polyslo!mpatnode 244 California Blvd | mpatnode@polyslo.UUCP San Luis Obispo, Ca 92630 | (805) 541-2048 / 543-9818 / 756-2516
jcmorris@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Joseph C. Morris) (04/12/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > Kermit seems to manage the first 2 packets but then >keeps retrying until it gives up. I've tried altering things like packet size >and end of line character, but this hasn't helped. I've never had any problem with KERMIT transfers as long as I remember to set up the parity properly (use the sample MSKERMIT.INI file definition of the 'DEC' macro: timer off, parity none, flow x, hand no, local off. Most of my problems occur when I'm trying to run over a link which forces the parity bit to a specific value. The usual result, however, is a stalled file transfer, not retry packets. I've normally used 2.29 or 2.30 in the PC, and an ancient VMS Kermit 3.1.066. Joe Morris
paulo@mucs.UX.CS.MAN.AC.UK (Paulo L de Geus) (04/12/88)
I'm not sure if my problem was similar to the original question, but I think some people could benefit from my experience. Incredibly none of our systems has a manual page for kermit. After reading the replies on this issue I managed to transfer binary files from a Sun server and an Atari back and forth. I used to transfer uuencoded files using kermit under UniTerm. When I tried to transfer a binary file to a Sun and back to the ST (by setting "binary" in the UniTerm's menu) not a single program worked. Using a diskdoctor utility revealed there was no problems concerning the 8th bit. All bytes above 0x7F were OK, but whenever either a single 0x0D (CR) or 0x0A (LF) were transmitted along the binary data an extra LF or CR was inserted on the stream at that point. I used to invoke C-Kermit on the Sun by typing "kermit -x", which prompted it already in the server state. The solution was to call "kermit -i" and then call the server function (this can also be done by putting a line with "server" in the .kermrc file). I think "kermit -i" puts the server in a state to accept binary transactions (sorry no docs handy to check). It now works OK. -- Paulo L de Geus JANET: paulo@uk.ac.man.cs.ux Dept of Computer Science Internet: paulo%ux.cs.man.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk Univ of Manchester USENET:...!mcvax!ukc!man.cs.ux!paulo Manchester M13 9PL U.K.
amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell) (04/12/88)
In article <914@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>, rk@cs.strath.ac.uk (Richard Kingslake) writes: > I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to > MS-DOS via kermit. I had the same problem. For me, the cure was to tell my Vax's Kermit "set file type binary". The download then worked ok. Try it! You'll save the time of the expanded uuencoded file. -- amlovell@phoenix.princeton.edu ...since 1963. disclaimer: These are MY opinions. You only WISH they were yours.
sct@a.UUCP (Stephen Tenbrink) (04/13/88)
> In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > | HELP!! > | I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC > > Parity, I think... I run no parity on everything, but you might try: > ......... You should also set the 'file type' at the host end to 'binary' if it isn't already. Usually 'file type' is set to 'text' or 'ascii'. To change file type enter kermit then type: set file type binary<cr> .
braun@drivax.UUCP (Kral) (04/15/88)
In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: >I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC >lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the >IBM end). Besides setting file type binary on the Unix end, which I'm sure everyone has already told you to do, you should note this: I've had trouble transferring large (several hundred K or more) binary files using versions of MSKERMIT less than 2.3 (2.26, 2.29). Using 2.30, I have transfered as much as 1.2 Mbytes in a single (archive -- zoo format) file with no problems. I have also been successful at transferring very large binary files (a zoo archive of the entire kermit distribution tape B and tape E) using unix ckermit version 4C(058). -- kral 408/647-6112 ...{ism780|amdahl}!drivax!braun Think Globally ... Act Locally DISCLAIMER: If DRI knew I was saying this stuff, they would shut me d~-~oxx
thomas@bnlux0.GOV (Richard A. Thomas) (04/15/88)
In article <914@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> rk@cs.strath.ac.uk writes: > >In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: >> >>I'm trying to transfer binary files from a vax running unix to an IBM PC >>lookalike using kermit (C-KERMIT 4.2(030) at the unix end, MSKERMIT 2.29 at the >>IBM end). >> > >I have never managed to transfer binary files successfully from Unix to >MS-DOS via kermit. I always uuencode the files on Unix, transfer the files >as ascii, then uudecode on MS-DOS. This always works. Of course, it >assumes that you have uudecode available on MS-DOS. I do have such and >will post it if requested. I got it from the net myself some months ago. > > Richard Kingslake I have successfully transferred binary files between Unix and MS-DOS by ensuring that the parity was properly set. Since I am not certain that some connection between my PC and the Unix machine or device won't remove the 8th bit, I always set parity even to guarantee ``8th bit quoting'' in the Kermit transfer. It is not enough (at least on our Ultrix system) to have set parity even on Unix through just ``stty'' or the .login file. The .kermrc file in your home directory should also set parity even for C-Kermit on Unix. And of course you also set parity even in MS-DOS Kermit. I haven't tried all possible variations of parity settings and methods of setting them, so perhaps I'm being overly cautious in forcing the transfer to use ``8th bit quoting'' in binary file transfers. But it works. Our version of C-Kermit is 4C(057) 31 Jul 85 and I have transferred binary files with MS-DOS Kermit versions 2.27 and 2.30. Richard Thomas Brookhaven National Laboratory
johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Wayne D. T. Johnson) (04/22/88)
We are currently running PC kermit 2.29, could one of you kind soles please send me the lattest version. It seems ours has problems with data errors (possibly triggered by X-ON/OFF) and occasionally loses entire blocks of data. We also are using unix kermit 4d (060), if there is a newer version, could you send that as well? -- Wayne Johnson (voice) 612-638-7665 NCR Comten, Inc. (internet) W.Johnson@StPaul.NCR.COM or Roseville MN 55113 johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM The comments stated here do not reflect the policy of NCR Comten.
finegan@ucqais.uc.edu (Mike Finegan) (04/25/88)
> In article <715@btnix.UUCP> crouch@btnix.UUCP (Chris Rouch) writes: > >If anyone has successfully transferred binary files from unix to msdos using > >kermit, could they please mail me with the settings they used. Also: use "set file type binary" on the unix machine, and then "server" - then use "get" or "send" on the pc side.
jcbst3@cisunx.UUCP (James C. Benz) (03/10/89)
I've got a version of Kermit for the UNIXPC that absolutely doesn't work in any useful way for anything. Specifically, it won't let me set the line to ph0 or /dev/ph0 or anything like that, so that I can use it to call out thru the modem. I've asked about this before on this group, and the only answer I got was "Do you have the latest version?" I don't know, but apparently not. Can anyone point me to an ftp site that might have this? Oh, by the way, am running Sys 5, v3.51 on a plain vanilla UNIXPC with one phone line. Thanks much for any help forthcoming. -- Jim Benz jcbst3@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu If a modem University of Pittsburgh answers, UCIR (412) 648-5930 hang up!
paulg@mars.SanDiego.NCR.COM (paul gladden) (02/20/90)
In both the port and source code from Columbia an error occurs in a take file when it encounters the following command: set file type text Kermit(4E) will output the following error: ? 7 and 8 are ..... ... take file terminated The error is output from cmkey (ckucmd.c) and appears to receive a bad output from getwd(). Anyone seen this error? And better yet, anyone have a fix???? Thanks in advance. Paul Gladden NCR CORPORATION E&M San Diego paulg@mars.sandiego.ncr.com 16650 West Bernardo Drive ucsd!ncr-sd!mars!paulg San Diego, Ca. 92128 (619) 485-2716
xxkim@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Kim Johnson) (10/09/90)
Thanks to everyone who responded to my kermit question. It was all a big help and everything seems to be going smoothly. Thanks, Kim Johnson no .sig