ramon@skye.mit.edu (Ramon F Herrera) (12/13/90)
Hello, Silicon Graphics (System V) wizards out there: How can I make the delete key work properly if I login from a DEC (Ultrix/VMS/VT100 terminal) device into a Silicon Graphics computer? The DELete key doesn't work, so I have to use ^H instead. I have tried: % set term = vt100 (before login) % setenv TERM vt100 (before login) % stty erase DEL (after login) but they don't do the trick. Is the terminfo file distributed with the SG machines erroneous?? Should I just add some 'stty' statement to my 'dot' files, or should the terminfo file be modified?? . . . After I wrote this message, I played a little bit and I found out that the following solves my problem: % stty erase \<DEL><RETURN> Instead of <DEL>, I can press any key and it still works, so my new question is: how can I include this fix in a .login or .cshrc file?? (Also, I would like to hear some opinions from terminfo hackers!) I tried the obvious like: %stty erase \0177 (I TYPED it, it was not in a script!) but it doesn't work. thanks, Ramon Herrera ramon@iona.mit.edu
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (12/14/90)
In article <1990Dec13.035401.19365@athena.mit.edu> ramon@skye.mit.edu (Ramon F Herrera) writes: >How can I make the delete key work properly if I login from >a DEC (Ultrix/VMS/VT100 terminal) device into a Silicon >Graphics computer? The DELete key doesn't work, so I have >to use ^H instead. I have tried: >% set term = vt100 (before login) >% setenv TERM vt100 (before login) >% stty erase DEL (after login) >but they don't do the trick. Is the terminfo file distributed >with the SG machines erroneous?? Should I just add some 'stty' >statement to my 'dot' files, or should the terminfo file be >modified?? Something you (and all UNIX users) need to clearly understand is that terminfo (or temcap) is NOT USED for "plain vanilla" applications, usually including the shell (command-line interpreter). Terminfo describes characteristics of particular terminal types, for programs that do terminal-dependent stuff like direct cursor addressing. Note that what key you CHOOSE to mean "erase preceding character" while typing at "plain vanilla" applications has NOTHING to do with the characteristics of your terminal; it is a user preference option. Thus, you need to tell the UNIX terminal handler (which is the gnome that handles each character that you type) what your intentions are, if the default behavior is not what you want. That is what the "stty" command does. "stty erase '^?'" is the usual way to specify use of DEL for an erase character. I personally recommend backspace..
mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) (12/28/90)
In article <1990Dec13.035401.19365@athena.mit.edu> ramon@skye.mit.edu (Ramon F Herrera) writes:
:Hello, Silicon Graphics (System V) wizards out there:
:
:How can I make the delete key work properly if I login from
:a DEC (Ultrix/VMS/VT100 terminal) device into a Silicon
:Graphics computer? The DELete key doesn't work, so I have
:to use ^H instead. I have tried:
:
:% set term = vt100 (before login)
:% setenv TERM vt100 (before login)
:% stty erase DEL (after login)
:
:but they don't do the trick. Is the terminfo file distributed
:with the SG machines erroneous?? Should I just add some 'stty'
:statement to my 'dot' files, or should the terminfo file be
:modified??
:.
:.
:.
:
:After I wrote this message, I played a little bit and I found out
:that the following solves my problem:
:
:% stty erase \<DEL><RETURN>
:
:Instead of <DEL>, I can press any key and it still works, so my
:new question is: how can I include this fix in a .login or .cshrc
:file??
:(Also, I would like to hear some opinions from terminfo hackers!)
:I tried the obvious like:
:
:%stty erase \0177 (I TYPED it, it was not in a script!)
:
:but it doesn't work.
:
:thanks,
:
:Ramon Herrera
:ramon@iona.mit.edu
On our SYSVR3.2 UNIX system the man for stty says
Control Assignments
control-character c
set control-character to c, where control-
character is erase, kill, intr, quit, swtch, eof,
ctab, min, or time (ctab is used with -stappl;
(min and time are used with -icanon. If c is
preceded by an (escaped from the shell) caret (^),
then the value used is the corresponding CTRL
character (e.g., ^d is a CTRL-d); ^? is
interpreted as DEL and ^- is interpreted as
undefined.
Thus,
stty erase \^?
--
Dan Mercer
NCR Network Products Division - Network Integration Services
Reply-To: mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer)
"MAN - the only one word oxymoron in the English Language"dsg@mbunix.mitre.org (Goldberg) (01/02/91)
In article <802@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM> mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) writes: > > % set term = vt100 (before login) > % setenv TERM vt100 (before login) > % stty erase DEL (after login) The problem is that on the SG DEL is already stty'd to intr (don't ask me why). My solution for my .login file, as well as on the command line is: stty intr ^C erase ^? I used ^V to quote the control characters in vi. -- Dave Goldberg UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator The Mitre Corporation MS B020 Bedford, MA 01730 617-271-2460 Domain: dsg@mbunix.mitre.org UUCP: {your neighborhood}!linus!mbunix!dsg
dsg@mbunix.mitre.org (Goldberg) (01/02/91)
In article <DSG.91Jan2081608@mbunix.mitre.org> dsg@mbunix.mitre.org (Me) writes: > In article <802@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM> mercer@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dan Mercer) writes: No, he didn't. He was responding to a previous post. Sorry I forgot to remove the attribution line. -- Dave Goldberg UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator The Mitre Corporation MS B020 Bedford, MA 01730 617-271-2460 Domain: dsg@mbunix.mitre.org UUCP: {your neighborhood}!linus!mbunix!dsg